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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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happyvalley808

@Luc,

Thanks for posting the video by -revizal- ....I  e-mailed him, he says if he doesn't have luck running his motor on 100% water, then he will install the plasma ignition circuit on one of his GEET motors.........

Thanks again,

HV

SPP-48

Quote from: goldenequity on August 11, 2008, 11:29:09 AM
@ Sam
Is it possible for you to "hang" (hold on to) this drop of water .... and place it into the radius of the plasma effect?
I've been very curious to know the explosive effect with this much water available to the plasma
without "drenching" or simply "wetting" the electrodes.


@goldenequity

I ran the water droplet test as you suggested. The results were not promising, although still interesting. I was not able to use the spark plug as the droplet could not get close enough without jumping to the electrodes. I used tungsten electrodes with a wider gap. Using distilled water.

I have attached a small video taken with my still camera, so the quality is poor and was not able to show the true intensity of the spark. The video was edited to show only the spark action.

The first spark is with no water, then the droplet, and finally a water mist spray which seems to be the most effective in increasing the spark size and noise.

It is interesting to see how the spark is affecting the droplet, without exploding it. It is obviously an issue of scale. The droplet was too big. In the end, the motion created by the spark caused it to fall. This seems to confirm that misting, or fogging is best.

Cheers

Sam


peteroks

Hi here is a link to some plugs on the market that use a high voltage capacitor built into the plug /boot cap ,that is inline with the way a water plug may develop . see http://www.directhits.com/howitworks.html--------- Peter

Grumpy

Quote from: allcanadian on August 12, 2008, 12:59:16 AM
@Grumpy, I take it you are refering to the qualities of oscillation?

Reading the patent, it's quite simple with no references to anything out of the ordinary.  A large part of the patent deals with the commutation method in which the contacts are connected to the connecting rod so as to be activiated by the movement of the piston. 

Where is the oscillation? - the circuit is just charged and discharged.
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allcanadian

@Grumpy
QuoteReading the patent, it's quite simple with no references to anything out of the ordinary.  A large part of the patent deals with the commutation method in which the contacts are connected to the connecting rod so as to be activiated by the movement of the piston. 
Where is the oscillation? - the circuit is just charged and discharged.
I think you know as well as I do that a good patent lawyer will protect the spirit of an invention while giving very little in the way of understaning to the layman nor those "skilled in the art". If you look at the patent you will find a self inductance coil H charging a capacitor, the capacitor is then discharged through the short primary of a step-up transformer. This is Teslas "method of conversion" and you will see it in more than a few of Teslas patents if you know what to look for. If this is indeed just another ignition transformer why use the self inductance coil H -- it is not needed.
As well if we look at Gotoluc and quimans circuits you will find a "resilient" media in the circuit in the form of both a capacitor and the blocking diodes. The HV section of the ignition coil will see the low potential path to the capacitor and move towards it then the diodes slam closed producing a high potential short wave period shock wave on the capacitor, the capacitor then discharges through the only other route----the spark gap. Here we can use a simple analogy---- strike a drum and hold the striker on the drum (DC current)and there are very few oscillations, but if we strike the drum and quickly remove the striker the oscillations will continue. In my experiments with gotoluc's circuit I have produced discharges having qualities I have never seen before, the discharge is a brilliant white with a volume and length many times greater than the capacitor itself could ever seem to produce. The question I think we should be asking is what process has changed the qualities of the discharge and how can we improve this process?.
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