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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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allcanadian

@Grumpy
QuoteIf you read the patent, Tesla syas he left out the other engine components becuase they were not necessary to explain the operation of the ignition circuit, and he says gas or explosive mixture several times.
LOL, I can't sneak anything by you ;D I wonder how many people read the patent?

@IndianaBoys
I have been using the RIDICULOUSLY SENSITIVE ELECTRIC CHARGE DETECTOR from Bill Beatys website for quite a few years now, I think this circuit is as important as my oscilloscope and multimeter. If you connect your oscilloscope across the LED you can get a better indication of what the electric fields are doing.

Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

kalnai

Anyone tried to just remove the earth (ground) electrode from the sparkplug and let it fire in a circle like a halo plug (or marine plug) with this plasma circuit? 

Also, has anyone tried this plasma ignition in an engine with gasoline as normal.  Does it improve mpg or increase power--  as Krupa says?  I would like to run my car with water, but for now, I'll settle for improved performance using gasoline.  I'm able to lean my fuel / air ratio - > disconnect both O2 sensors and then put a variable resistor on the intake air temp. sensor.  Anyone have circuit for a multi-cylinder?

I agree with Luc, I think that firestorm plugs are more about the "electronics" than the plugs themselves other than for long life ->( fire around different points on the ball -> normal plug electrode would wear (burn) away too fast).  Do we have any specifics as to the volts, current, (maybe even component names) or anything that Krupa uses to fire his plugs?

thanks,
needful

gotoluc

Quote from: kalnai on August 13, 2008, 08:14:43 PM
Anyone tried to just remove the earth (ground) electrode from the sparkplug and let it fire in a circle like a halo plug (or marine plug) with this plasma circuit? 

Also, has anyone tried this plasma ignition in an engine with gasoline as normal.  Does it improve mpg or increase power--  as Krupa says?  I would like to run my car with water, but for now, I'll settle for improved performance using gasoline.  I'm able to lean my fuel / air ratio - > disconnect both O2 sensors and then put a variable resistor on the intake air temp. sensor.  Anyone have circuit for a multi-cylinder?

I agree with Luc, I think that firestorm plugs are more about the "electronics" than the plugs themselves other than for long life ->( fire around different points on the ball -> normal plug electrode would wear (burn) away too fast).  Do we have any specifics as to the volts, current, (maybe even component names) or anything that Krupa uses to fire his plugs?

thanks,
needful

Hi kalnai, thanks for your input. To answer your first question, yes I have a spark plug that I cut off the J electrode with my grinder and also cut the center anode so electrode ring and anode are at the same height. It make a wide spark gap and works well. Also if I use my coil pulse circuit that I used for the Krupa video I can get multiple arks sometimes going in a rotating fashion.

At this present time Peter Lindemann and Aaron are doing just that! using the circuit on a gas lawn mower engine. You can read (with limited access) the topic here: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/2242-water-sparkplug-16.html

Did you not see my post above?: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5024.msg120917.html#msg120917

It should answer most of the questions you are asking.

Luc

peteroks

Hi peter here
I have taken on the plasma arc project now .Though im new here i have looked into most of your results and your progress is great. For me i have built a lv circuit and a hv circuit and am about to join them to gether i liken the hv setup to lightning ond the lv to thunder ,both have been around since the dawn of time so it is about time we used them.pleses note there is an interesting post over at waterfuel1978 for a guy who lives near s1r and has personally visited him and his car , the best part is he is an engineer and will be trying to communicate to all in understandable english what s1r has done, see his recent posts in the messages section.he mentions s1rs coil and resonance and compares it to meyers VIC , THEN BRINGS IN A NEW TERM ELECTRON AVALANCHE - more options

gotoluc

Quote from: peteroks on August 14, 2008, 02:59:12 AM
Hi peter here
I have taken on the plasma arc project now .Though im new here i have looked into most of your results and your progress is great. For me i have built a lv circuit and a hv circuit and am about to join them to gether i liken the hv setup to lightning ond the lv to thunder ,both have been around since the dawn of time so it is about time we used them.pleses note there is an interesting post over at waterfuel1978 for a guy who lives near s1r and has personally visited him and his car , the best part is he is an engineer and will be trying to communicate to all in understandable english what s1r has done, see his recent posts in the messages section.he mentions s1rs coil and resonance and compares it to meyers VIC , THEN BRINGS IN A NEW TERM ELECTRON AVALANCHE - more options

Hi Peter, welcome :D. You are correct to use the lightning and thunder comparison. Even before finding this simple circuit I thought that's what was going on in S1R's system.

At this time the circuit we have is not capable of making a ICE run on water alone so we have now started testing with adding fuel and as you can see from the posts above we are getting some results that would not normally work on a stock ICE.

Thanks for bringing up the engineer who is visiting S1R since I have not been to the waterfuel1978 site since I started this topic. Please keep us informed if something successful comes up out of this. Electron avalanche is a good term to use ;D

Thanks

Luc