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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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bxngoc

Thank you Groundloop. You make my mind  full of interesting things. It was my fault on previous failed attempt I didn't use exact SCR on your circuit and I have not used SCR before. It is difficult to find good electronics component in my place.
For new circuits I suggest we will make a PWM output to a MOSTFET to drive a step up transformer to get high AC voltage (like people on energeticforum do with NE555). So we will get rid of AC wall plug. We only turn on charge pump when it is need so we will save battery energy.
In further improvment we can add two hall sensor inputs to PIC to determine TDC and BDC of pistol to start ignition.
I know you have planned all improvements already but I can't restrain to say it out
I appreciate if you can send me PIC CDI source code and schematic for reference.
@all
Sorry for my bad English but I know you can understand my writing well.
Cheers

goldenequity

@ Luc....
.... and here's your circuit producing some mechanical energy...
it WILL work.... patience and perseverance everyone!!!
this is from retrod
and here's his comments from the cap70 thread:
QuoteHere is a video I did of a marble in a close fitting plastic tube with plasma arc and water. For an ignition system (high voltage) I am using a 1980 vintage GM HEI ignition coil powered by a strobe light discharge. The low voltage side is a 120 volt mains voltage doubler circuit. As you will see the energy to drive the marble out of the cylinder is not very predictable.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=WzpsOdllv2w
cheers!  ;)

Groundloop

bxngoc,

When running a CDI circuit on a engine, all you need is the motor ignition reference output.
This will give you a fixed reference point for the piston. (Usually TDC or close to TDC.) Then all
you do is delay the firing in software (in the PIC) for other ignition points. The PIC software
tracks the time between the ignition pulses and can then compute the correct timing.
One or two Hall sensors on the motor flywheel will also work fine. (Less software.)

I see no problem in designing a PIC controlled power supply for this circuit. Give me some
time and I will see what I can come up with. The psu should be simple and powerful and the
first thing that I think of is a toroid transformer controlled by a couple of mosfets with a IR2106
driver IC controlled directly from the PIC.

I'm sorry to say that I can not share the full engine CDI circuit and software with you. This, because
I have developed the circuit together with a friend. My friend gave me a permission to put parts of
the circuit (modified) out on the web.  That said, we can construct our beefed up ignition circuit
around the already posted circuit drawings and write a new software for the PIC16F88 mcu. I see that
a bit longer down the road I should construct a professional circuit board for this project. But first I need
a replicator to build and test so that we do not waste time and money on expensive circuit boards.

BTW, you English is OK. :-)

Groundloop.

bxngoc

@Groundloop
It is no problem that you can't share full source code. I respect intellectual property. I've found http://www.semifluid.com/?p=34 that generate plasma from a PIC output.
We're playing a jigsaw puzzle now. We're finding pieces of information and assemble into a big picture of a car that will run by water.

Groundloop

bxngoc,

I fully agree with you, the ultimate goal is to run an engine on water.

I have constructed a 12VDC to 230VAC (or 110VAC) converter that can be switched
on and off from a pic TTL control signal. But, I did not like the circuit. I think it is too
complicated. I also think it will be much cheaper to buy a 300 Watt inverter that
convert 12VDC to 230VAC (or 110VAC). I have attached the circuit for the thinkers
out there. Maybe someone can modify the circuit to be more simple? The link you
posted was a very nice circuit but I think it need some back emf protection of some sort.

Groundloop.