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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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send_to_nice

Do we know how much power we can get out of an engine using this method? Is it going to be enough to power a magneto? Clearly, some form of circuitry would be needed to feed the right kind of power into the spark plug, but imagine this engine running itself after a simple pull-start procedure.

It all depends on 1) How much power we could extract from a magneto and 2) whether the engine itself could produce enough power from the magneto.

hoptoad

Quote from: send_to_nice on June 30, 2008, 04:54:33 AM
Do we know how much power we can get out of an engine using this method? Is it going to be enough to power a magneto? Clearly, some form of circuitry would be needed to feed the right kind of power into the spark plug, but imagine this engine running itself after a simple pull-start procedure.

It all depends on 1) How much power we could extract from a magneto and 2) whether the engine itself could produce enough power from the magneto.

In theory, the engine does not run itself, it consumes fuel, just like any other combustion engine. The cool thing is that it uses water and air and electricity.

Air is a complex gas mixture and water is a profoundly complex substance, far more than is commonly realized. It has the widest range of properties than any other known molecule. Plasma (very, very hot ions) and water and air. Hhmmmmmm.  There's room for a lot of complex chemical/electrical activity to occur. The answers to your questions may easily be provided by empirical data from real experiments, but if left only to the theorists, there's enough fodder for debate over what is happening to keep the mind boggling for quite a long time ! LOL

Including me !  :D :D  KneeDeep

broli

Quote from: hoptoad on June 30, 2008, 05:54:20 AM
In theory, the engine does not run itself, it consumes fuel, just like any other combustion engine. The cool thing is that it uses water and air and electricity.

Air is a complex gas mixture and water is a profoundly complex substance, far more than is commonly realized. It has the widest range of properties than any other known molecule. Plasma (very, very hot ions) and water and air. Hhmmmmmm.  There's room for a lot of complex chemical/electrical activity to occur. The answers to your questions may easily be provided by empirical data from real experiments, but if left only to the theorists, there's enough fodder for debate over what is happening to keep the mind boggling for quite a long time ! LOL

Including me !  :D :D  KneeDeep

It's always fancy to keep stuff complex and hard to grasp so you can brag but this effect isn't. Sure the phenomenon is unknown so far but doesn't mean it's hard to get going. I believe he was asking whether you could hook a generator to the water engine and then provide the electricity from that. Using water is the last concern since this is after all the water planet.

send_to_nice

Quote from: broli on June 30, 2008, 05:59:04 AM
I believe he was asking whether you could hook a generator to the water engine and then provide the electricity from that.
That's my question exactly. If we think of water as how it is generally viewed at the moment, there is no 'energy' in it. However, we are feeding electrical energy to the process in order to trigger a (hopefully) much more powerful reaction. So we need a constant supply of energy in order to get energy out. I am just wondering if this powerful reaction can produce enough energy to power a generator that can produce the electricity necessary to keep the engine powered.

The peak oil doomers will look for any excuse they can to bag something that debunks their 'dieback theorem' and I think in this case it will be the batteries. They're currently having a go at hybrids for this reason - they say that if you add up the energy resources they consume to manufacture and dispose of, they are actually less fuel efficient than a petrol engine. A water engine that only needs a battery to start gives them very little ammunition.

broli

@send_to_nice: I don't know much about cars but I believe that's the alternators job.