URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[Kevin Mc Carthy]

I have built a medium voltage to high voltage circuit and would like some advise as to what direction to go. I use a fluorescent ballast 660 V output through a variable HV inductor to charge a cap 20 MF 660V through a SPDT switch (NC). Upon a low voltage pulse the SPDT switch discharges the CAP 660 V 20 MF to a step up automotive coil ( designed for 12v to 20,000V upon field collapse). The discharge of the TX goes through 2 spark plugs ( Bosh 4 prong ) opposed with a varing distance placed on a ceramic glazed plate. Next I used a 20,000 .0026 pF cap in series with 400ohm 40 watt resisters.

I get two different sparks when water has been sprayed, one type when the plugs are close together ( 1/2) inch apart which is a bright yellow red, pop and healthy plasma. The second is when the plugs are say 5 inches apart which is blue white, no burst hydroloysis, no loud pop. The latter plasma goes along the ceramic over the water molicules.

The former plasma is thick and a high density, yellow red and has a pop, lower voltage and higher amperage. The latter plasma has a much higher voltage ( funny but painful story), blue white, no noise, lower density filiment, thinner filiment.

Each discharge either type one or type two are 3.5 watts each. I believe voltage and amperage are very important to achieve burst hydroloysis. So there must be a maximum per wattage and an optimum per wattage.

What direction to go? Do I continue to find the optimum and maximum or do I do experiments to use the burst hydrolysis in another way?. I am going a different path then as a car sourch of energy and I would like any insight or suggestion, thank you.

[djzissis]

Hi Zis,

The transformer I'm using is rated for 24 VA, but that is for its normal use as a step down transformer but I use that anyway even for it turned around in our use here. 

Greg it's OK.!! a transformer can be used in both ways. Step up, or step down.... it's the same.!!

As long as I can cool the 3055 transistors and the transformer I can draw continuous 36 Watts.  It is running at around 90 Hz. I am going to play around with different caps soon to see If I can optimize and find the best frequency for this transformer and load.

On the test bench I am consuming 60 Watts for 48 Watts output.  Not bad for such a simple circuit.  At rest the circuit draws 12 Watts

Although I don't have an oscilloscope or a frequency meter, to gauge output frequency, I metered the idle current.
With no load, not even the transformer on, I am having 160mA @ 11,5 V at input.
that means 1,84 watts on idle, without any transformer.

Very nice Greg..!! Excellent circuit.!! I thing the 3055 can handle more (115W)

On your proto-board ... the double rows upper and lower are just isolated groups of 5 contacts, or are they 8 separate right-left busses, 2 lower right & left and 2 upper right & left?

On the board, it's the second you said.: The two raws are from right to left, isolated where the black line is.
This way we have, 8 raws from right to left. 2 upper left. 2 upper right. 2 lower left, and 2 lower right.

Thanks you very very much Greg.!! Very nice results.!!

Regards,
Zissis 

[demios]

I was thinking something....is it possible to somehow use a simple circuit to increase the 12V going into the primary of the ignition coil to 16V? That way we'll achieve +33% power input to the primary of the (stock) ignition coil and +33% to the spark itself. This would be especially nice with one of those 60.000V racing coils. What do you guys think of this approach?

[alpeko]

Zdravo demios,

Nije problem pomocu bilo kog dc/dc convertera napraviti koliki hoces napon.Ali sta ce ti to.Za plazmu je dovoljan visoki napon samo da jonizuje gap i stvori provodni kanal.Sve ostalo radi niski napon a velike struje.Ako hocemo da napravimo kola na vodu,razmisljaj u tom smeru.


In english:

Not problem obtain higher dc voltage.With simple dc/dc converter this job is easy.For plasma efect on spark plug HV about 15 - 30 KV is enough for build ionised channel.Rest of job working LV but higher amperage.You must thinking in that way?

Best reg.to all.

Alpeko.

[demios]

Hvala Alpeko, sada mi je jasnije. Usput, da li cu brze napuniti kondenzator sa niskom voltazom i visokom amperazom ili obrnuto? Tj. kako cu brze da ga napunim?

Hvala na odgovoru!

Thank you for explanation Alpeko! It makes much more sense now. By the way, do I need higher current in order to fill-up the capacitor or higher voltage? Which way do I fill the cap faster?

Thank you for the answer!