URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[paulsonaivy]

gr8 work buddy,
can u pls tell what is the out oput voltage
rgds paul

Ironic, isn't it, the people with the least money and resources working to accomplish what those with more easily could if they put their mind to it. In a way though, I'm glad that I'm not rich as it has taught me to be a lot more resourceful and creative, you think out of the box only when you are forced to
With the change to lcd and plasma screens there are a lot of CRT's around and they are a fantastic source for parts.
When I do have to buy stuff I get it from Ebay though I do my best to avoid Chinese stuff as it is dangerously unreliable. A really good, cheap, and quick to ship Ebay seller is "thaishopetc" I bought several IRFP460 MOSFETs at $1.20 apiece instead of paying $26 apiece at the local rip-off shop (though I do encourage buying local if you can; good for the economy).

Back to the RPG4700 though! Close to the end of the following video says it all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCJzqh5au_c&feature=channel_page

This thing can do it's magic with a 9 volt battery, no small feat!

Sir "Aquapulsers": Thank you very much for this great contribution  ... For the last several months, plasma and using plasma for seperating water molecules seems to have hit a roadblock and has just been plain stuck. The excellent circuits that many dedicated people have been working on only seem to go so far, and we have been having trouble moving onto the next neccesary stage of this technology (which is no surprise considering that resources and cash are limited for most experimenters here).
In my opinion, after seeing the videos and the excellently thought-out unit, the work that must have gone into, and the performance of the RPG4700, I think this is the next step up in plasma technology progress and it deserves attention. Though I haven't heard of anyone having the chance to test it, it has already been built and enclosed so that it can be connected easily inside a vehicle (as they showed in the above post) which straightaway removes a lot of hassle and money for the average person.
What I'm seeing in the videos is that the spark is not just bright, but very broad and powerful which is exactly where we need to be going.
I wish I could afford one (the price is more than fair for the work accomplished though), I'm going try to scrape together the funds to buy one as even if it maybe isn't the full anwer in the water-for-fuel it definitely is a leap in the right direction and I think more can be accomplished by people experimenting with it and by the Aquapulser team.
I hope that many will buy these, we can see that the money would be put to good use.

[vrand]

Back to the RPG4700 though! Close to the end of the following video says it all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCJzqh5au_c&feature=channel_page

This thing can do it's magic with a 9 volt battery, no small feat! 

Interesting video test that showed the radiant plasma was greater at higher wattage;  12VDC (26 watts) > 6VDC (12 watts) > 9VDC (4.5 watts).

Maybe 48VDC (100 watts) > 12VDC (26 watts)?

Can say, 100 watts plasma, fuel a car on 75-100% water?!

It would be great for the experimenter if the input VDC & wattage can be adjusted to say up to at least 48VDC (100 watts) or higher?

Even 500 watts input is not a problem with today’s cars/trucks, equipped with higher amperage alternators and battery capacitors used on high power stereo systems

-Mike R.

[alpeko]

@paulsonaivy


Look on explanation and see: 4.7uF cap charged to 450V.It is normal for cdi.Very nice is, all in one box.

Protecting circuit is in box,to 30KV.

Best reg.

Alpeko

[Shane Jackson]

Thank you for pointing me out, now please let me clarify what I said in the post.

The price I was quoting was to have the board I designed assembled. The reason for the high cost is my design uses 300 diodes and resistors.

http://www.facetrough.com/images/vexus-bud-3.jpg

My design has hookups for up to a V8 and also offers 80Kv voltage block.....

I did have PCB's made and have offered them for sale for $32 shipped. My attempt to help the technology grow… however to date I have only sold 1!!

Total cost to build one just like I am (case, PCB, diodes, resistors, caps, plugs,....) will be approx $120 plus time. Not exactly cheap but not too bad either.  I hope to have a video up on youtube soon.

That said your device does look very nice and I would love to see your schematics. The price is also very reasonable for a limited production item.

Thanks for your comments everyone.

We look forward and hope to answer all questions that may arise once our site is up.

Plasma ignition has been around for quite a while now. The basic working concept behind the unit we prototyped is based on the following patent:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3788293.html

Other similar patents
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4029072.html
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4223656.html
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4366801.html

There are also other patents and they will be listed on our website.

The key here is that the charging technology has been minaturized using SMT technology and a custom programmed microprocessor to optimize a flyback capacitor charging circuit. The charging technology is cutting edge and that is also the reason why in spite of all the patents out there, there are hardly any plasma spark products.  The issue has always been miniaturizing the charging technology and power consumption, which is possible today because of SMD components and microprocessors.

we would like to make it abundantly clear that we are not here for profit by any means. We are not new to the OU community, we sold and auctioned off high quality gated PWMS because a lot of researchers didnt have gated PWMs and we never posted any ads. We saved and used the funds to further R&D and as a result the Plasma Spark generator is the next HHO research device.


Please read the posts by a gentleman by the name of Shane Jackson

http://hhoforums.com/showthread.php?t=2093&page=3

The average cost of building the current open source plasma spark vexus circuit...which is conceptually virtually identical to the expired patents outlined above is around $400. And this $400 does not include the inverter. We are all Shane Jacksons here...kudos to him at least he knows how much it costs to actually get just a  basic open source circuit prototyped.

Our pricing will be around $350 just barely covers the basic production costs, from circuit design, enclosure design, Surface mount assembly, HV encapsulation, custom machined connectors, and high quality components etc. We are under the impression that most HHO plasma spark researchers know the cost of actually prototyping a plasma spark device. If we had actually charged for the actual engineering and design input, the unit price would be well over $500.

Credit goes to Luc for having discovered that a high current plasma spark explodes water mist.

Our goal is simply to make affordable plasma spark units for open source researchers to see if the plasma technology can actually run a car on water, HHO or even 60% Ethanol 40% water and if it can supplement existing HHO systems and other systems under ongoing research like Stanley Meyers etc.

We have no personal attachment to any technology or process, and we feel it is the public's right to test it out for themselves and if it doesn't work keep moving on. Our way of contributing back is to take bold risks in prototyping by investing capital and  we invested all of it in bring out a production model that will help everyone move forward with plasma ignition technology and achieve the broader objectives of a true and lasting energy independence.

We would like the broader public who are not OU members or part of the open source culture to test the plasma spark effect. Gmeast  has claimed excellent mileage gains...lets see if others can better it. Those who are great skilled mechanics (unlike us) but have little electronics experience to build a plasma spark circuit can benefit greatly from our work, and that is the best way to move forward if the open source engineering paradigm does indeed work!

[Shane Jackson]

Here is a picture of the PCB's. If anyone would like one you can get them here:

http://www.facetrough.com/product_info.php?cPath=55&products_id=190

Thanks,

Shane Jackson