URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[gotoluc]

@gotoluc

You MUST get Moderator authority so you can delete the 'crapsters' else this will just be another multi-page joke that goes no-where.

Yes Dr. Stiffler, you are correct!... I did ask Stefan but he has not done that wet. I also need to make changes to the first page and I cannot do anything here. We may need to move to another site to make this work.

Luc

[ramset]

The DR. is right Luc you can /should get that here  there is another thread here to comment freely This should stay here   others are watching that could also give Huge contributions Chet PS changing design of test tank for preload of 100 PSI[before combustion] chet

[hartiberlin]

Hi Luc,
I have moved the thread to a new board and put you as the moderator.

Now you can remove the non-fitting posting, if you want.

Look beneath the thread for the additional options as a moderator.

Regards, Stefan.

[gotoluc]

Hi Luc,

If you are using 110V from the wall and your 1:1 toroid transformer is big enough, all you are seeing is a standard arc discharge as that in an arc welder. The ignition spark will simply be providing the ionisation for the arc to start. Just as in arc welders that have a HF spark start so that you don't need to touch the electrode and risk sticking to get the arc going. So you will find that your input energy will be significant. That is not to say that this won't be effective to test on an engine as I think it might be a good and simple test rig to prove that you can fire an engine with water in the cylinder. But I don't think it would be an efficient way to get an engine running on water in a stand alone setup. For this we need to get the electrical energy input down.

I have also gotten such an bright arc effect like an arc welder by using my simple security strobe setup/circuit and connecting 5 or 6 12V lead acid batteries in series with a large HV diode (diodes) across the spark plug. Yes the spark plug will glow red and perish and it will use heaps of input energy and be nothing more than a brute force device.

Regards,

Ossie

Hi Ossie, I did some tests with the new circuit and here is what I found. Fist of all, I had forgot that I changed the capacitor to 3.3uf from the 1uf once I found this effect, so it is a 3.3uf cap used. Also I just got this variac and it looks like it can put out up to 160 volts and I was using around 150 volts. Next I tried to measure the current but I think none of my meters are giving reliable readings. The meter that worked best was my new analogue - digital and on the 10 amp scale it was only showing an average of about 200ma.

At everyone, my eyes have somewhat been affected by this but it's not so bad. But please all be more cautious than me and get some heavy sun glasses if you get to this point.

I will be out today all day. Got to go make some money . I hate this part of the World we have created.

Luc

[nightlife]

starcruiser,

The other method that comes to mind is to hit the water two or more times in quick succession, one to create the fog and the other to ignite it.

That?s just what Myers had done. His injectors created a fog "energized steam" and then was ignited. This process has to be done instantaneously so that the hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen don?t cool and become one again.

What is being done now, with the plasma, is just energizing the water and exploding the hydrogen at the same time. When water is energized, the water splits in to hydrogen, nitrogen and oxygen, but the hydrogen and nitrogen clings to the oxygen. If they are allowed to cool, they become one again. The plasma can energize more water then the common spark can, the more voltage applied, the more water can be energized and therefore ignited.
This is why week plasma can not explode very much water. Myers energized the water in the injector before the injector created the plasma spark. I believe he used the HV energizing process as a capacitor to create the plasma spark.

Using just the plasma to explode water may just work in two stroke motors but I don?t believe it will work in 4 stroke motors. The amount of plasma it would take would blow a whole in the pistons of a 4 stroke motor. I believe this why Myers designed and used the energizing injector/sparkplug.
I believe that the spark from the distributor cap would fire the injector which would spray energized water into the energizer and then create the spark. This would have to done within milliseconds of each other. Spray, energize, spark.

  Myers has done all the work for us, all we need to do is replicate what he has done and simplify it in a form that anyone can build. We all know that big money would never allow these injectors to be mass produced. Therefore, we must design and build them ourselves.