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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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greendoor

Quote from: qiman on July 10, 2008, 06:43:22 AM
Also, please note that not one ampre has been measured in the history of mankind.

Meters have never measured one single amp.

The meter measures VOLTAGE through a known resistance and that tells you how many "amps" is there...still NO AMPERAGE HAS EVER BEEN MEASURED DIRECTLY....the meters measure nothing but VOLTAGE through different circumstances.
Thank you again!  Light bulbs going on .. you are so right ... the maths of Power  = Volts * Current is fairly solid though ... so I don't know how much this changes anything. 

I have huge holes in my knowledge about electricity.  I always equate it back to fluid flow, which I understand a little better.  Volts = Pressure, Current = Flow.  Together, they equal Power.  The maths sort of works - but there are things about electricity that don't stack up to this simple understanding.  For example, electron drift is much slower than current flow - so if it isn't electron flow, what is it??  Are amps real?  Can they be faked, without requiring electron flow?

greendoor

QuoteThere are three conventional ways to transfer heat: Conduction, Convection, and Radiation. Now there is a fourth way, Electrostatic Cooling (ESC), that has been discovered and patented by Oscar C. Blomgren (Sr. & Jr.) and others. Negative ion probes are placed near a heated object, which is grounded. When high voltage is applied, there is a dramatic drop in temperature. This extremely simple system reduces or eliminates the need for other methods, and it uses very low power and is very efficient. It also facilitates heating when applied in reverse!

This has to be a factor in water spark effects.  Obviously polarity is hugely important.  I intend to experiment with all options.

Shiver

Quote from: greendoor on July 10, 2008, 07:20:57 AM
Thank you again!  Light bulbs going on .. you are so right ... the maths of Power  = Volts * Current is fairly solid though ... so I don't know how much this changes anything. 

That depends if you trust Ampere's law as being the *complete* and factual explanation, or just something that can't be disproved by tools that can (or can't) measure it.  The link somewhere else in one of these threads for "Note_on_Electrodynamics.pdf" would suggest there are errors made that have held us back for many decades, which itself would be a brilliant use of disinformation, because everyone believes Ampere's law because they know it's "fact" as they would say.   Me I don't know, I'm still trying to assimilate it all.

troyd1

Testing idea: remove the tab at the bottom of the spark plug and put 2 with the electrodes facing each other. As you space them, you should get a larger spark. Maybe the engine needs 2 plugs using only the electrodes to complete the circuit. I just thought of mounting 2 plugs facing each other as described and finding the the most effective gap and then try putting a little soap in some water, dipping a bubble blowing ring, putting it in the spark gap and see what will happen. I know this is out there, but with no ability to do any testing at the moment, thought I would throw it out there in case someone saw some merit in this.

tinu

Quote from: greendoor on July 10, 2008, 04:35:07 AM
I know Tinu made me out to be a bit of a fool, and that's fair enough.  I don't suppose to know everything there is to be known about water and how it works.  So whatever the right terminology - I am convinced the best energy source is in that low temperature liberation of whatever the hell it's going to be called once mainstream science starts to acknowledge it's existence...

That was not my intention and I apologize for that!
All I want is a clean and coherent discussion; otherwise the whole thread will quickly go down the drain.
Best regards,
Tinu