URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[DrStiffler]

Ummm...its a joke...like HAHA, you know?

@xbox
You called it and I will stand off so when this BS is over I can come back and point out the BS.

[bumfuzzled]

The strike from the upper atmosphere to the earth is similar to the anode to cathode of a spark plug in the experiments of this thread. The problem is that no one will realize that the action will not invoke a chain reaction. In other words it is totally localized around the event. The energy in a lighting strike is far in excess of the wildest dreams of any experimenter and yet it will not cause a spontaneous combustion or disassociation of water molecules past the periphery of the primary strike.

If mother nature can not do it with the power she has then you have little hope of mortal man doing it. If it were possible for a chain reaction (excitation) of non-localized water molecules, then I feel the earth would not be here today.

If you mean there is no "flame front" or "flame propagation" as with gasoline then I agree, whatever is directly hit by the plasma arc is the only thing affected. I also agree that alot of people don't realize that. I don't think a conventional spark plug is gonna cut it either. It's gonna have to be a spark plug/injector combo for direct injection, sort of like a diesel.

[DrStiffler]

If you mean there is no "flame front" or "flame propagation" as with gasoline then I agree, whatever is directly hit by the plasma arc is the only thing affected. I also agree that alot of people don't realize that. I don't think a conventional spark plug is gonna cut it either. It's gonna have to be a spark plug/injector combo for direct injection, sort of like a diesel.

@bumfuzzled
Yes indeed. you appear to understand and seem to have a handle on fact. Big discharge area with a very significant amount of input energy to support it.

The reaction id far from what a carbon based fuel flame front is. It is a localized condition and even though it results in a very specific and energetic response, it only responds to the area of excitation. This is a very important bit of science knowledge, but its not the manna from heaven for ICE engines.

[bumfuzzled]

Big discharge area with a very significant amount of input energy to support it.

This is what I've said a few times and what I'm working on at the moment. I don't claim to understand what is taking place with this reaction but I think I know enough to work on it, mo' power, bigger spark area. Regulating it to be able to drive down the road like a normal car is gonna be another challenge I think. If nothing else you could power a steady state generator and run yer house off of it and charge the batteries on an electric car, use the power to run a "still" for ethanol production to power "normal" ICE engines or many other things.

[xbox hacker]

Some findings....

So went to harbor freight and bought a "IGNITION TRAK ENGINE IGNITION TESTER". Its for testing normal spark under pressure, it has a gauge, but not with psi graduations.



Got my setup hooked up to it, put a little pressure on it and..... the needle MOVED when the plasma occured!!!! Displacing the pressure in the tube! To give you a visual aid, the needle was in the middle of the red area, when the plasma occurred it shot the needle to almost the end of the red. It did go back down very shortly after, but it went right back to the start spot. The funny thing is that i was testing the device with a "normal" spark...any pressure in the yellow or higher i can not get any spark at all. It only works in the red for my magneto on the B&S. I think i need a good Accel coil...crank up the power!