URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[alan]

It seems as if I have a short circuit anytime rectifier is hooked up.Anyone have ideas?

Broken diodes or wrong polarity?

[wavez]

@ whopper1967
Just place a light bulb in series anywhere between the inverter and the cap. Remember W = V*A, so a 95w bulb should pass 0.86a at 110v (if there is something I'm not accounting for here then someone please correct me). If you had two bulbs in parallel then they would both pass that much current, so you would get 1.73a. I have my bulb placed before the rectifier, and since it's AC, either leg does the same thing. You can get cheap light bulb holders from a local hardware store. They should have little screw connectors on the bottom, and you can make your connections easily with alligator clips.

I also recommend using wall current for these tests because the inverter is just not necessary unless you are ready to install something like this in a car. Just take the right precautions if you are going to do that.

I think Shanti meant to say V=I*R, voltage = current * resistance. (or I=V/R, or R=V/I).

[ninjadaniel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9dROFFBsGU

Video of my experiments, 800w generator, 450v + voltage doubler.  The spark is 100% consistent and very loud, only reason it stopped is because i was unplugging it from the generator and plugging it back in again.  After 2 minutes of running the HV diodes blew, looks like i need to run more than 2 in parallel to allow the amount of current required for this.

Daniel

[hydrocontrol]

@kezep
Please do not get discouraged.  There are still things to explore.  In Papp's later patent, he mentions the use of three impulse firings on the downstroke separated by 60 degrees.  I assume that means TDC then 60 degrees and finally, 120 degrees.  We are not dealing with combustion here.  Papp must have realized it that by multiple pulses, it would keep driving the piston down?  The early patent describes using deoxygenated water plus chorine besides noble gases as the "fuel".  He also used a glow plug to preheat the charge.

Go here and read the early patent #  3670494

http://www.pat2pdf.org/pat2pdf/foo.pl

I posted a new thread regarding Papp as it relates to water as fuel here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5154.0.html

I got no response.  Evidently, no one wants to bother to see the relationship to the Papp engine and a water for fuel engine we are discussing.
I guess I am spitting in the wind, or everyone by now knows I am getting senile in my old age.

Tishatang

Excellent find. What a great idea of multiple firings on the down stroke. We keep forgetting that this plasma only creates a local effect in relation to the spark plug and not combustion effect like a hydrocarbon fuel that effects the entire cylinder.

[gotoluc]

@kezep
Please do not get discouraged.  There are still things to explore.  In Papp's later patent, he mentions the use of three impulse firings on the downstroke separated by 60 degrees.  I assume that means TDC then 60 degrees and finally, 120 degrees.  We are not dealing with combustion here.  Papp must have realized it that by multiple pulses, it would keep driving the piston down?  The early patent describes using deoxygenated water plus chorine besides noble gases as the "fuel".  He also used a glow plug to preheat the charge.

Go here and read the early patent #  3670494

http://www.pat2pdf.org/pat2pdf/foo.pl

I posted a new thread regarding Papp as it relates to water as fuel here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5154.0.html

I got no response.  Evidently, no one wants to bother to see the relationship to the Papp engine and a water for fuel engine we are discussing.
I guess I am spitting in the wind, or everyone by now knows I am getting senile in my old age.

Tishatang

@everyone, please have a look at Tishatang new topic!...for those of you who are at powering the motor stage will benefit of understanding the process going on. I will try to find some test videos that I have saved somewhere and post them there.

Got to go and make money now I'll be back late tonight.

Luc