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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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aether22

Excellent, so now we have simply an isolation transformer and and a tiny tiny cap.

Since spark plugs are also not needed it really is a very easy experiment to perform.

And even an autoignition coil is not needed because seemingly whatever is the most expedient HV generator, a MOT (treated carefully for the dangerous piece is equipment is clearly is) will seemingly do fine.

And we see that it can be done in anything from humid air to drenched or even under water.

Seems to me it is now only an issue of how much mechanical power can be gained from the explosion and since that already seems decently established it is figuring out how best to apply it to an engine.
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

rednael

Hi callanan and Luc,
First of all congratulation and thank you for your so much important discovery.
Can you please callanan give us a description of how the cricuit operates (the one with the sin generator).. why is the use of the xenon light. Is it acting like a switch ? I am having trouble imagining how is works.

Thank you

gotoluc

Quote from: callanan on July 02, 2008, 03:22:11 AM
Hi Luc,

If you are using 110V from the wall and your 1:1 toroid transformer is big enough, all you are seeing is a standard arc discharge as that in an arc welder. The ignition spark will simply be providing the ionisation for the arc to start. Just as in arc welders that have a HF spark start so that you don't need to touch the electrode and risk sticking to get the arc going. So you will find that your input energy will be significant. That is not to say that this won't be effective to test on an engine as I think it might be a good and simple test rig to prove that you can fire an engine with water in the cylinder. But I don't think it would be an efficient way to get an engine running on water in a stand alone setup. For this we need to get the electrical energy input down.

I have also gotten such an bright arc effect like an arc welder by using my simple security strobe setup/circuit and connecting 5 or 6 12V lead acid batteries in series with a large HV diode (diodes) across the spark plug. Yes the spark plug will glow red and perish and it will use heaps of input energy and be nothing more than a brute force device.

Regards,

Ossie

Thanks Ossie, those are all very good points :D I'll look into all this tomorrow :'( .. well tommorow is now LOL ;D...it's 3:50 am here now.

Later, got to catch some sleep.

Luc

Added: I'll take the video down for now until I get to the bottom of this.

greendoor

The Graneau report indicates that it's the "Ampere force or Ampere Tension" that causes the explosion.  Is that just a way of saying that it's Current/Amps that does it?  If so - is a high voltage brute force counterproductive? 

A 12V lead acid battery can deliver massive amps with a dead short - way more than an inverter. 

Has anybody tried connecting the battery directly to the spark plug via diodes?  Nothing could possibly flow until there was a plasma spark bridging the gap? 

If the higher volts aren't actually required, it would simply be wasting Watts - if Amps are all that matter (once the plasma bridge is formed). 

greendoor

Sorry if this is too far OT ... seems to me the main requirement is high volts (>20KV) to establish the spark, and then high amps to bust the water into vapor.  The goal is to keep the power consumption down.

I'm wondering if the high voltage generators used for air ionisers could be used?  From memory these are a diode voltage multiplier system.  Don't old TV's use some high voltage system? 

If the capacitor was switch (charged, then discharged) then should it matter how it was charged?  And won't the total power consumption of the discharge be limited by the size of th capacitor?  Just trying to rule out the objection that using AC mains power is somehow flawed.  I don't see why it can't be used - just as long as the power consumption was limited.