URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[gettinwet]

new plug...thanks to gettinwet for this one http://e3sparkplugs.com/diamondfire.htm

I forgot my questions in the other thread were pertinate here as well so I'll ask. Has anyone tried aircraft style spark plugs? They do not have the standard "L" shaped electrode as most automotive plugs. Also, Mercury Marine uses a similar design plug in their old thunderbolt ignition engines. I will get the AC part number tomorrow when I get to the shop. Short of combing back thru the whole thread, has anyone mentioned the HV output voltages of the ignition coils being used? Since I do not totally understand all of the electrical happenings with the circuit you guys are using I must ask, What would happen to the spark intensity if a higher voltage ignition coil were used? Pardon my questions but I know engines not electronics.

Thanks,
Wet

[TheOne]

I forgot my questions in the other thread were pertinate here as well so I'll ask. Has anyone tried aircraft style spark plugs? They do not have the standard "L" shaped electrode as most automotive plugs. Also, Mercury Marine uses a similar design plug in their old thunderbolt ignition engines. I will get the AC part number tomorrow when I get to the shop. Short of combing back thru the whole thread, has anyone mentioned the HV output voltages of the ignition coils being used? Since I do not totally understand all of the electrical happenings with the circuit you guys are using I must ask, What would happen to the spark intensity if a higher voltage ignition coil were used? Pardon my questions but I know engines not electronics.

Thanks,
Wet

This plug looks like the haloplug http://www.haloplug.com/
I used this plug on my last vehicle (jeep) and I see the big difference in the engine.

But I still think pulstar are making a better spark

[hartiberlin]

@geo,

There must be more to it than that. Your saying that the only energy being input is that from the spark. In turn the energy in the spark can only come from one place: the electrical supply (whether battery or mains). If thats your hypothesis, then there are FAR more efficient ways to turn electrical energy into rotational mechanical energy: for example a simple electric motor. So, physics-degreed though you may be, I think your mistaking the principle upon which this machine is operating.

-Mike

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That is right.
We must test, how big the overunity factor is, otherwise if the process is not overunity
it makes more sense to use an electric motor to drive a car.

One easy thing to measure it would be in some kind of electrial plasma canon.

Just put the sparkplug into a iron tube and take a 1 Kg iron weight for example,that
fits well sliding into the tube.

Then use water with the sparkplug and a defined charged capacitor voltage
to fire the High Voltage and discharge the lower voltage cap.
Then you can see how high the 1 Kg weight will be shot out into the air.
Measure this height difference and measure the voltage difference on the
cap and you can calculate the energies used and got out.
So potential height energy is:
Epot= m x g x h
Epot= potential height energy
m= mass
g= 9.81 earth acceleration
h= height difference

Electrical input energy can be measured at the cap:

Ecap= 0.5 x C x V^2

Ecap= stored electrical energy
C= capacitance in Farad
V= Voltage at the cap.

So for an example:

If you charge up a 100 uF cap to 400 Volts, you have
Ecap= 0.5 x 0.0001 F x (400 Volts)^2=
8 Joules ( Wattsseconds) of energy stored inside the cap.

Now calculate the height you must shoot the 1 Kg weight up to be
at least unity COP=1.

Ecap=Epot=8 Joules= 1 Kg x 9.81 x height.
So height = 8 Joules / 9.81= 81.5 cm

So you have to shoot up the 1 Kg weight more than  81.5 cm to be OverUnity !

I hope somebody can show this.

Regards, Stefan.

[caz]

Gary, I bought a set for my 91' Honda Civic Hatchback 1.5L, $11.00 each $7.00 shipping. Had them quote a set for my 88' ford 5.0L V8 F150 $7.00 each. I don't know at this point if they are resistor plugs or not, but I think that they are a small enough company to build what ever we need. I will let you know for sure when I receive them. As an Automotive Machinist with 40 plus years of learning, 2 stroke weedeaters/ chainsaws, 4 stroke singles to V12's, 3208 CAT diesel's I'm excited to test these with this new circut. Out of respect for Luc, Ossie, Xbox and anyone else that has actually done testing and attempeted to apply this concepet to an ICE I have been limiting my comments to this thread in order to not muck it up. I must however interject a comment on the issue of timing. With HHO you must retard the timing to only 8-10 degrees ATDC because of the rapid combustion of the mixture in the combustion chamber. Water by itself won't produce a faster flame front than HHO so I suggest keeping your timing closer to the 8-10 degree so as not to waste critical degrees on the power stroke.
Chris

[lasher23]

Hello all,

I've been following this discussion since the beginning. I'm not an electronics expert, but I replicated the circuit and had my spark-plug delivering a nice fat arc. Anyway, I was wondering if this setup could be run from anything other than an inverter. I borrowed the inverter I was using and it's gone now. I cannot afford one and I'd rather not give up. Could I feed 120 from the wall socket straight into my rectifier for testing purposes? I hate the thought of giving up now and could use some advice.

Thanks all and keep up the research, someone will crack this yet.