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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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goldenequity

Quote from: xbox hacker on July 10, 2008, 02:20:46 PM
Do you want to start with a mower or a car?
With a mower you need to lose the magneto(if you have -VE), and replace it with a pickup like cap70, then use a automotive ignition coil with + to + and pulse the - from the pick up...you should get +VE  :D

Car...just make sure the coil has the + on the + and you should be good to go.

I will be putting the pickup setup on my motor this weekend (or sooner  ;)) But ofcourse that will change the timeing, so that might take a bit to get it right.

Yes...then no problems... ;D

@ xbox hacker
Just remember:
Even if you put a pick-up on the magneto to trigger an automotive ignition coil;
OR you put points on the output shaft to trigger the automotive coil,
you ARE going to STILL be producing a "waste spark"....
and by changing the timing anywhere past TDC, you are going to be placing that "waste spark" into the Intake Stroke.  :o

xbox hacker

@hydrocontrol: You can pick up an old car on craigslist for under $200 ..LOL And as for the mower motor, harbor freight  has one that is BRAND NEW 5HP vertical shaft for $99, just the other day (intown store) PULL START  :P

Then you can place it on a cinder block and hold it with your hands while someone starts it...
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

@goldenequity: I had thought about that, but i just want to get it to "pickup" first...lol Also i was think about a post i saw sometime ago, about useing the piston top as the ground point...gonna try that too  ;D

fritz

Quote from: qiman on July 10, 2008, 06:43:22 AM
Also, please note that not one ampre has been measured in the history of mankind.

Meters have never measured one single amp.

The meter measures VOLTAGE through a known resistance and that tells you how many "amps" is there...still NO AMPERAGE HAS EVER BEEN MEASURED DIRECTLY....the meters measure nothing but VOLTAGE through different circumstances.
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An analogue instrument with moving iron measures induction caused by current in a stationary coil against the force of a spring.
A moving coil instrument measures the magnetic field caused from a current against the force of a spring.
Even a slope or dual slope A/D converter buffers the input voltage and measures the time it takes the buffered voltage (converted to current source by a resistor) charges a cap to a given voltage.
A successive approximation or flash ADC  compares voltages - but thats of no meaning.
(OK, seems we are using voltage comparators in modern equippement - but the same can be achieved with current comparators - if you build your own ones)

There is some tendency in EE to build "voltage" driven systems due to the fact that they are easier to build or to measure. With current system - measuring means always opening a loop - in "voltage" system just tapping with a probe on a point is enough. (as long as the involved currents are very small compared to the losses caused in the conductors).


voltage vs. current is always a design flavour.

There is no direction in ohms law.

With the same proof you did I will state now that nobody ever measured a single volt.
Volt is only derived from the current which is caused by conecting a voltage to a given resistor...

rgds.




xbox hacker

@Ben: Just curious....what about timing and ignition firing?

hydrocontrol

Quote from: xbox hacker on July 10, 2008, 03:29:05 PM
@hydrocontrol: You can pick up an old car on craigslist for under $200 ..LOL And as for the mower motor, harbor freight  has one that is BRAND NEW 5HP vertical shaft for $99, just the other day (intown store) PULL START  :P

Then you can place it on a cinder block and hold it with your hands while someone starts it...
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

@goldenequity: I had thought about that, but i just want to get it to "pickup" first...lol Also i was think about a post i saw sometime ago, about useing the piston top as the ground point...gonna try that too  ;D

:D :D :D I have seen those $200 cars.. I might as well put wheels on a coffin.  :D :D :D :D Besides which ones is easier to get rid of after experimenting.. A dead car is a rather large yard attraction. ;D
Pull start engine for experimenting.. naw.. That is why I got an electric start Briggs. It did cost a bit more than $99 but it is a bit smaller to hide from the wife if things fail..  ;D ;D Now to figure out how to get only one spark. My Briggs has both a vertical and a horizontal output side shaft. The horizontal shaft is used for self propelled things like mowers and snow blowers. I will have to see if the horizontal shaft has some relation to the vertical shaft. Like 2-1 or 4-1. I might be able to use that shaft for timing. If I could only be so lucky.