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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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greendoor

Quoteusing water to power a compressor to produce air to use in a car sounds rather inefficient compared to harnessing the power at the source.

In theory I agree.  However, if your source of energy is free - then efficiency isn't a major factor.

I am just pointing out that Internal Combustion engines have been optimised to run on a completely different principle to water arc explosions. 

You ARE going to have problems with rusting & corrosion
You ARE going to have problems with hydraulicing (cylinders jamming when filled with water)
You ARE going to have problems with freezing in winter (unless you start burning hydrogen - back to electrolysers and different technologies that might yet work)
You ARE going to have problems with Big Oil IF you get in their way
You ARE going to have problems with Big Government IF they start to lose tax revenue

IF any corporation was ALLOWED to develope a water arc engine, it would require massive R & D to compete with the major ICE makers.  Most technologies could be shut down with some simple public safety regulation.

So what is the best way to liberate massive amounts of free energy, and stay under the radar?  That is why I am suggesting keeping the energy production seperate/hidden from the energy consumption.

The best way is to widely proliferate a cheap workable technology that puts the working principle into the public domain.  Note that most genuine free energy ideas have already been patented - or close enough to drown you with legal disputes forever.

Some of the free energy "heroes" may have been bought & controlled too. 

So don't imagine that you are going to get massively rich with some backyard technology.  The cards are stacked against you.  But one person CAN still change the world. 


Sprocket

@greendoor - I seem to recall you were alluding to the same MIB/Bigoil/conspiracy stuff in the Davey heater thread, so now I'm beginning to wonder what your motives really are!  If you truly are that worried about MIB's, lock yourself in a cupboard somewhere and swallow the key, you are then 100% safe - guaranteed!!! :D

For the rest of us, the only way we will ever see change is if stuff like this is replicated on a massive scale, then there is absolutely nothing that the big, scary MIB's can do!  But don't worry, they'll invent some other way to tax us instead, so there's no fear of them becoming destitute...

greendoor

I'm not scared.  I'm just a practical realist.  Like some people here, I'm looking for the best strategy to build a cheap simple free energy device that CAN be replicated on a massive scale and change the world forever.  It's going to happen. 

But if you don't have a strategy, and don't know who your real enemies are - you can get into trouble very easily.  The Peter Davies story is an excellent example of what i'm talking about.  One of hundreds of inventors who has not succeeded because of government obstruction.  And to see this going on in my city, this year, does make me a little sensitive. 


send_to_nice

Again, this applies to both subscribers and non-subscribers. Look at what Napster started and p2p software is continuing to do to the recording industry. Big oil and the govt can regulate, they can prohibit, they can do whatever they like... but once it gets out into the public that there's a 'free' way to do what people have been paying for, don't underestimate what the public can do to respond. It's non-combustive, non-polluting, and free. Safety and environmental impact are the two most likely excuses the govt would haul out to prevent this from taking off, but it defies neither premise. I really think consumers are smarter than we're giving credit for. They'll see regulation for what it is - a desperate excuse from big oil to keep trying to get consumers to line their pockets.

Tinker

Sprocet

Give Green door a break.

He has a point,

Big oil is not the problem our government is, here in the states we are taxed at the fuel pump to support our infricture /roads and bridges. Big oil can survive off of plastic sales.

If we changed to a water fuel economy that ''they'' would have little control of, as we say in the south they would have a hissy fit.

Citys /Counties/States/Feds Would need to find other sources of revenue to pay for maintaining our infricture.

Changing to water fuel would create a whole new world that our legislators would need to deal with.

The current approval rating in the U.S. congress is less than ''10'' percent GWB is doing better than that.

What chance do we have for them DOING it right.

If this plays out owners purchasing components and paying for installations should work out unless someone comes up with ''New Rules''.

Be
Well
Tinker