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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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ninjadaniel

Quote from: retrod on July 13, 2008, 08:09:58 PM
Several of you are way ahead of me on engine modifications already. I'm still working on a high speed plasma spark and did a small test by confining the spark and topping it with a marble. The video shows the water does make a difference in actual work energy. I noticed the 'pulse' was also able to shake bits of dust loose from the rafters, I would see this float down after a test with the open ended chamber. You can feel this pulse if you hold you hand a foot away. Here is the video of my brief test.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_yn0AOUnOU

RD

F**king fantastic video mate!!! that amount of movement with NO compression.. cant wait to see what 10.5:1 will do in a car engine... or 8.5:1 with 13psi of boost!   As i asked in the video, can you give us a rundown of your specs?  How many amps from mains?, is it using straight AC or rectified DC first? Got a digram for your voltage doubler?  how many volts is your counties mains power? how many diodes and what specs?

I have a feeling geovels (and my) inconsistent plasma sparks are due to lack of voltage and/or incorrect wave form (half rectified vs straight ac).

retrod

Quote from: ninjadaniel on July 13, 2008, 08:37:55 PM
F**king fantastic video mate!!! that amount of movement with NO compression.. cant wait to see what 10.5:1 will do in a car engine... or 8.5:1 with 13psi of boost!   As i asked in the video, can you give us a rundown of your specs?  What size inverter, is it using straight AC or rectified DC first?  how many volts are you getting at the plug end? how many diodes and what specs?

I have a feeling geovels (and my) inconsistent plasma sparks are due to lack of voltage and/or incorrect wave form (half rectified vs straight ac).

Thanks for the enthusiastic comments  :). For this test I was not using an inverter. The power for the low voltage plasma was from the 120volt AC mains. I used a simple voltage doubler circuit, I used two different cap values in the circuit, the first (C1) is 950uf and the second or output cap (C2) is 100uf. The first cap is rated at 450vdc and the second was a unit I had in the shop is rated at 2.7kv, a slight overkill  :) 450vdc should be ok. The output voltage was around 350 volts. I used an old iso-tap transformer for some degree of safety & isolation. To pulse the ignition coil I was using my function generator driving a IRF640 mosfet. For diodes I used 16 series 1N5404, nothing exotic.
I think we need a good, cheap & fast way (high frequency?) to charge these capacitors. I don't think brute force like what I have demonstrated in the video,is going to cut it in the long run.

Regards,
Rd

ninjadaniel

There are many different varieties around that different people are using, i have tried this one using 33uf capacitors, i am thinking they are not big enough.  I might get a couple bigger caps and try it again.

callanan

Quote from: retrod on July 13, 2008, 08:09:58 PM
Several of you are way ahead of me on engine modifications already. I'm still working on a high speed plasma spark and did a small test by confining the spark and topping it with a marble. The video shows the water does make a difference in actual work energy. I noticed the 'pulse' was also able to shake bits of dust loose from the rafters, I would see this float down after a test with the open ended chamber. You can feel this pulse if you hold you hand a foot away. Here is the video of my brief test.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_yn0AOUnOU

RD

Hi RD,

I would like to commend you on this video and make a note to others that it is indeed a marble and not a foam ball that you are lifting with a water explosion. A marble does have considerable mass and requires REAL power to be lifted. Such video examples proving the proof of concept can only help in our endevour to gain awareness of this process in an effort to further it's development.

Regards,

Ossie

tishatang

@ninjadaniel

Inconsistent sparks could possibly be from high impedance causing the coil secondary coil to short to its core to ground.  Check that the HV lead is all the way into the coil, and the the resistance is low to the plug and the gap is not too wide.  One should never fire the coil without the HV wire inserted to a plug or to ground.  If you fire the coil without a HV wire in it, the HV will jump across the fine secondary windings to the core and burn its insulation.  Check the resistance of the secondary and see if it is less that you started.  Should be around 10 to 12k ohms.  If less, it could mean the secondary HV winding is shorting to its core.

tishatang