URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[HHOwanabe]

Luc and Ossie (and all other active contributors),
I am a newbie here and know very little about electronics or auto mechanics.  I am very excited about everyone?s work and believe in some way it is all relevant.  However, I must confess, I believe the latest most promising discovery is Ossie?s (page #25, post #962).  Luc, I am glad to read your post that accepts Ossie?s discovery/experiment as being relevant to the overall goal of getting a car (with an ICE) to run on water, and I hope Ossie will continue to be an active participant.

Now, here is how I got here.  I started out wanting to find out about Hydrogen cars which led me to all kinds web sites dedicated to ?Hydrogen on demand? and Stan Meyer?s Water Fuel Cell and new spark plug to convert water to HHO.  Then I found this site, learned about S1r9a9m9 and his experiments/successes, and have been following (all of) your progress every day.  Somewhere along the way I learned about how to use a 9v battery, two paper clips, and water to create Hydrogen and Oxygen through electrolysis (I?m 63, graduated in 1963, and never learned about that until now).  At this site, the first experiment I attempted was Ossie?s exploding water using a strobe light, engine coil, 9v battery, and non-resistor spark plug (from pg6, post #235).

Before I even started trying to build the test configuration I did the following:  I hooked the 9v battery (+) to the plug cap and the (-) to a wire wrapped around the plug base.  No spark (which was exactly what I wanted).  Next, I left the (-) hooked up to the plug and put the plug base in water. When I hooked up the (+) to the plug; Tiny BUBBLES (which again was exactly what I wanted).  NOTE here:  I ?assumed? the bubbles were Hydrogen.  You see, my assumption all along, from Stan Meyer?s and S1r?s videos/drawings/write-ups to everything I had been reading here, was that somehow the spark plug was being used (through a new separate/special circuit) to perform instantaneous electrolysis (in an ICE cylinder) then allowing the engines normal ignition cycle to ignite that hydrogen.

I do not have a strobe light and I?ve tried (in vein) with all sorts of wiring setups to just get a spark from Ossie?s exploding water experiment.  But I only get a spark when just the battery, coil, and plug are hooked up. When I add the diode string; no more spark.  No problem. I am moving beyond that now thanks to everyone?s posts here, a book on basic electronics, and an educational web site I found on one of the posts here (I?ve even learned how to use a multi-meter!).

LUC, at a very high theoretical level, I plan to create two circuits going to the same plug; 1 for LV to do electrolysis, and 1 for HV to create ignition.  I will move on from there (if I am successful) to ?simulate? an engine cylinder with piston to see if I generate any/enough energy to move the piston.  So, my question is, would you like me to create a new thread for my project, or just post my experiments/findings on this thread?  Either way works for me, but regardless, would you consider leaving this one post on this thread?  It could inspire one of your other participants to accomplish great things.

[broli]

I tested the injector assembly and it didn't work so well. The injector nozzle I'm using sprays a very fine mist, what we need is a fat stream of water to immediately fill the gap in the spark plug to cause the explosion. The injector nozzle couldn't fill the gap enough due to being a fine mist. It would eventually just fill the entire thing full of water and it would just sit there and bubble like a HHO generator and every once in a while it would pop and shoot all the water out of the assembly. I used my hand sprayer with the nozzle screwed out to shoot a stream and it would fire everytime in my injector assembly. I even pulled the assembly apart and had the plug laying in the open with the injector nozzle spraying right next to the plug and it wouldn't fire, but the hand sprayer with a fat stream of water made it fire everytime. So, I've got a couple more designs in mind but again I'll have to wait til I get to work tomorrow and ummm "borrow" some stuff to make it with. One design will hopefully allow a much bigger arc IF enough power is used.

Yet another important discovery. I think people were assuming in the beginning that the finer the water the better, looks like that's not very much the case. Thanks for the experiment.

[runaway]

Hi...

I have been reading through the thread here so got to it and put together a plug.
The center electrode I machined from of a solid S/steel rod, which has a hole drilled down the center and a little hole cut just behind the end of the electrode end.
The cavity where the water will pool behind the electrode I built up with wax, then filled the rest of the pug with high temp cold weld goop.
After that just melted out the wax so the cavity is clear to hold water.
Well, I think this could be the right sort of plug design but I couldn't get the bang needed that would drive a piston.
The ignition coil is a bit old and tired so wouldn't surprise me if thats where the issue is, so will need to get hold of a new one.
Anyways, thought I would show where I got so far with this.

Phil......

[epeirce]

I even pulled the assembly apart and had the plug laying in the open with the injector nozzle spraying right next to the plug and it wouldn't fire, but the hand sprayer with a fat stream of water made it fire everytime.

@bumfuzzled
maybe a non-medical syringe needle used for glue or solder paste mounted in your spark plug housing would do the trick.

[goldenequity]

@ runaway...
nice job runaway!  Will this be running @ gravity feed or under pressure?
Keep us posted.... be nice to see it on a bench test vid.
Which plasma circuit will you be running this with?