URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[plasmastudent77]

Hi

I had a similar thought about exploding water. My gut feel says you need to basically kick the stuffing out of the water first with a strong RF field ( a pre-iginition pulse ) and then while the water is reeling
about suddenly understanding what its like to go a few rounds with mike tysn , you "knock it out" with a second pulse that finally detonates the hydroxy & oxygen.

I tried a 75 Hz Jacobs Ladder pulse system to run a 50KV car ignition coil to try and split steam and nothing worth mentioning happened. Bugger. 

FWIW - my guess ( as yet unproven if it works ) is the 240V AC when rectified to DC provides plenty of power to smash the water moluecules via a plasma. I'm about to build a 240 V AC ( mains power ) to DC to drive my own spark plug experiments and see how I go. From reading all the posts so far this seems worth trying.

I'm guessing two pulses per ignition ( a couple of milliseconds apart ) for every ignition stroke in a car engine might be useful.

[bumfuzzled]

What about making  your   firing  chamber smaller .
I was thinking  of  cutting off your plugs  ground  electrode  and  making  the  bottom  of your   firing  chamber   the electrode .

I made a  little picture

The  light blue is the actual  chamber
The  dark blue  are drilled  holes for  water  or  plasma

Ideally  the  plug should fire into a small pool of water  each   stroke .
It might  be possible to  make the  bottom of the firing  chamber  a threaded plug so the gap  can be changed

gary

I don't believe this will work for the LV only circuit. You need to get rid of the water as soon as you inject it into the gap or it will just sit there and bubble like an HHO generator.

[resonanceman]

Hi

I had a similar thought about exploding water. My gut feel says you need to basically kick the stuffing out of the water first with a strong RF field ( a pre-iginition pulse ) and then while the water is reeling
about suddenly understanding what its like to go a few rounds with mike tysn , you "knock it out" with a second pulse that finally detonates the hydroxy & oxygen.

I tried a 75 Hz Jacobs Ladder pulse system to run a 50KV car ignition coil to try and split steam and nothing worth mentioning happened. Bugger. 

FWIW - my guess ( as yet unproven if it works ) is the 240V AC when rectified to DC provides plenty of power to smash the water moluecules via a plasma. I'm about to build a 240 V AC ( mains power ) to DC to drive my own spark plug experiments and see how I go. From reading all the posts so far this seems worth trying.

I'm guessing two pulses per ignition ( a couple of milliseconds apart ) for every ignition stroke in a car engine might be useful.

Plasmastudent

Can you  explain  a little more  the  circuit  you  used?
So far I am  assuming    you  drove  an aftermarket   coil  with   a 75 Hz pulse .




I  was planning  on using   Allcanadians    circuit  from the  Tesla  challenge  thread ........ If  I  can  get it  pulsing  fast enough .   

Because  of  the  size  constraints   from using  a  standard  plug  shell  the  gap in the  final   gap  will  be  relatively  small,     Circuit  will have to  be fine  tuned  so it  doesn't  have to much   voltage .   
The   gap  needs to be  triggered   by the   plasma and water  as it moves through the gap .
To  much  voltage and it  will  arc  continuously.


As far as a couple of  pulses  being enough ..... I don't plan on  counting  on that.
So far  it looks like    at least with a  cold engine  the   vapor in the   cylinder   can  condense out  very quickly ..... (  implosion )   I plan  on  being able  to   start   the  plasma   just  after  TDC  and   continuing   as long as  required to  keep  the   gasses from  going into implosion  mode .
I am thinking that  firing  15 or 20 degrees  starting   at TDC  might  be practical  with a cold engine . 
The   extended  firing  would  be like using a  choke ....  it  would not  be used  all the time .   

gary

[resonanceman]

I don't believe this will work for the LV only circuit. You need to get rid of the water as soon as you inject it into the gap or it will just sit there and bubble like an HHO generator.

I agree 

This  will not work  with  just LV.   ........It  would  require a  HV  spark 
It  would  require a quick pulse .......  with plenty  of power

If it is underpowered   it  will   just  bubble  as  you  described.


I   am drawing a blank on the  guys name  ........don't have time to look it up.
This  is  what  has been  called  a cartrage shot   ...... enough   power and  the  water  will  all be vaporised or  blown  out of the   basin  within  miliseconds

gary

[John Urbanowski]

I just thought of something I would like to try on this spark system we have all been working on but I dont have the correct capacitors to try but maybe someone else wants to try it in the meantime . I was thinking that the discharge seems to need to have large wires for no resistance to the plug , and maybe to be pulsed with three different size capacitors,all with separate wires ,and the capacitors not to be too large in size for i've read smaller capacitors seem to discharge excessively faster than large  ones,and maybe they all will discharge at the same time  and cause a different oscillation for each one and they might create a chord so to speak and resonate in harmony and  have a even more powerful discharge .      Thank you   , John U .