URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[bumfuzzled]

Finally got the injector assembly working right tonight. Had to make another crude injector nozzle but it works. I also had to take the washer off the spark plug to get it lined up better with the nozzle too. I have a very small solenoid valve operating the nozzle that I was pulsing with an old distributor I had laying around and it sounded like a lil machine gun going off. I've only got a 100uf cap, I need more. Everytime I try the 4200uf cap it melts the tip of my plug. lol Might pick some more up tomorrow. I turned it upside down and place a steel ball bearing over the hole and fired it and it jumped up maybe an inch. Still not enough power to run a motor but I'm not thru yet!! As fast as this is exploding somebody with some electronic circuit building knowledge could get this thing to fire two or three times on the combustion stroke and that might help.

[plasmastudent77]

Bumfuzzled

Heres an idea - use a small valve to suit 1/4 inch tubing for garden drip irrigation as a way of throttling the output of your solenoid. That way you can fine tune the volume without having to mess about with injector duty cycle etc. Also you could bleed off some of the pressure ( via a branch pipe ) before it gets to the injector nozzle so your solenoid doesnt cavitate with limited pressure, that way pressure on both sides of the solenoid is the same, but bleeding pressure via  branch-off pipe will control what goes through the injector. Hope this makes sense.....its a bit like a turbo blow off valve.....

Also, try buying a few 400 uF caps and try different combinations. The problem is the optimal charge/discharge times will have to be tuned to the number of pulses need to actually get it to work.

Heres a test - buy some 1-2inch diameter copper pipe say 6 inches long. Seal off one end with a flat plate & tapa thread for the spark plug into it. Screw in the spark plug. Tap another hole for the water injector nozzle ( have the nozzle pointing directly at the spark plug ) and mount in a vice. Get some PVC sandwich wrap ( Glad etc ) and use this to wrap a ball of toilet tissue and stuff it in the pipe so it stops 1 inch from the injector/sparkplug. It should form a resonably good airtight-ish seal but will be harmless if it hits something when the water goes bang. This ball will give you some back pressure and will simulate ( sort of ) the compression in a cylinder and is cheap to do.

Hope this might be useful.

Cheers & beers

Steve

[resonanceman]

Steve

I have been thinking  alot about  how to   regulate the power .

For my  plan to work I  have to  be able to  control  the power on at least 3 levels
The 3 levels  are pump  choke  and  final burn .   another  level or  2 could be added if  it was found that   a higher  percentage of  bubbles was helpful  in the final burn

The  Eagle  Research  website  has a  booklet  describing  a  capacitive transformer .
In  short  a  capacitor  will   transfer  a given  amount of power on each cycle  ........
If  a second   capacitor   is  put in  series   the   voltage  will  depend on the  capacitance of  each  capacitor .

For  a multi cylinder   engine   I  would have one  main  capacitor  set ...... The  first  capacitor  would be a large  variable  cap ........ the  second  would be  the  same capacitance  as the  variable  cap  at  full  power .   

The   second  cap  would   be connected to   full wave  bridges  at each   plug .   On each plug  there would also  be  a  capacitor large enough to smooth  out the pulses .   

The nice thing  about this .......it feeds  all the plugs .    If  a plug hasn't  fired    it simply  doesn't  draw more  charge .
I haven't  decided  on how to  protect the  LV from the HV yet  ......  I would  like to  avoid  diodes  if I can .



This  video      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr_xWnej-gc
Cap 70 underwater .   
From  how  much  water  the spark  moved I  would say that  we  probably need  1/4  to  1/2   of that spark  for  full  power  ......... (  for  pumping ) 

The   choke  would  be a second  set  of capacitors and an accumular that  would be  added to the  circuit  when needed . 
In other  words when  the choke is engaged  you would be using 2 pumps and an accumulator




For the  final  burn I was thinking  of using the   Allcanadian circuit  (Tesla challenge )          I havn't  tested it yet ........but I am thinking that  varying   the  input voltage should  make a big  change in the output pulse .


gary

[plasmastudent77]

Hi

I found a thyristor that appears to handle 1200 Volts and 32 Amps.

http://docs-asia.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/0a35/0900766b80a35a6b.pdf

This could be used to produce DC pulses using
(a) a straight AC voltage input , or,
(b) as the main switching transistor for a PWM circuit, or,
(c) the output driver for a basic 555 based oscillator circuit.

Cheers & beers,

Steve

[plasmastudent77]

Hi Gary,

The pumping you are talking about reminds me of the increasing amplitude pulse train that Meyers had in his patent/s.

Alternatively, if you vary the pulse length, you vary the energy in it. So a short 120 V DC pulse will have less energy that a pulse twice as long but same voltage.

So a PWM circuit could be adapted to produce :
a 1 ms pulse,
then 1 ms later,
a 2 ms pulse,
then 1 ms later,
a 4 ms pulse.

All at the same DC voltage.

This just a different way of how Meyer used a bunch of pulses of the same length, but each pulse was higher that the previous one in the pulse train ( 4 pulses I think, and these pulse trains were repeated over and over ).

With electricity, to work out the enegry in a pulse, you integrate the shape and width of the pulse to determine the energy contained in the pulse. Meyer had same pulse width, but varied the amplitude of the pulses in the pulse train, gradually increasing each successive pulse's amplitude over the length of each pulse train.

But I'm suggesting using the same pulse height ( as were using a constant DC voltage )  but make the width gradually longer over the pulse train. With a greater length pulse, we will have greater energy delivered to the spark plug with greatest energy in the last pulse.

So in effect, we should in theory , have a PWM based Meyer pulse train.

Cheers & beers,

Steve