URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[Shiver]

I'm pleased to see much more positive responses than I did in the past.  @AllCanadian, I bow down and admit that those points I had completely neglected to consider.  For the sound and light it may be possible to recover some of this, but I feel pretty sure that would only be if it was a cold rather than hot discharge due to the tolerances of bimetalic strips, PV's etc inside a live chamber.  Personally I keep coming back to a static chamber tuned, but I have to keep thinking about ICE when responding in this thread, which has a whole basket of extra complications.  If it were possible to conclude that it's all HV or LV that matters, then the extremeties of those would allow the actual energy consumed to be minimal anyway (practicalities aside).

@Grumpy, I'm struggling to see how the pressure change in the moving cylinder would affect the water behaviour.  I'm not taking a stance on that as I don't know, I'm just struggling to model in my head why the change would affect the active media.

@resonanceman, I believe everybody is our teacher, and sometimes those that provoke the worst in us will persist until we get the message.  He openly admitted right at the start that although he had classical training he was open to new ideas.  That not withstanding, I think it's a fair call to request a tape measure be put to the effect in order to define a better 'taxonomy' on the subject.

[allcanadian]

@forest

Thank you very much. This quite prove my theory. Sound is a waste of energy, actually heat and sound is a conversion of Radiant energy into electromagnetic spectrum and mechanical pressure. Sound would indicate a conversion around sonic waves so I assume 1 - 20 khz frequency of discharge oscillation (sonic area)

I would agree sound and heat can be considered the lowest forms of energy, they are conservative--that is energy is conserved but they are entropic and are continually lowering there potential through expansion. They can be utilized as we know but do so at the cost of massive losses incurred in the system.

[Dread]

OK let me explain why you gentlemen are rubbing people the wrong way.
This is an open source environment where the rules of established procedure simply do not apply. There are people here who are seeking knowledge and people with knowledge sharing it freely. The sweeping statements such as "unsuitable for ICE, etc." are based on what? Otto cycle, wankel, Jet, Heat pump? Your assumption that everyone is working towards the same goal is wrong. The questions you posed earlier have mostly been answered but instead of researching before asking, you just stumbled in and started shooting off.
Let me paint a picture: Ever been in a public place where the conversation is interesting and productive in a congenial atmosphere? Then someone walks in and starts criticising others point of view then dictating where the conversation should be heading. What happens? People leave.
Perhaps you have that as an agenda. Or indeed your social skills are in desperate need. Or you simply don't understand how to behave in an O.S. environment. Your behaviour is completely indicative of one of these.
D.     
 

[Shiver]

...sweeping statements such as "unsuitable for ICE, etc." are based on what? Otto cycle, wankel, Jet, Heat pump? Your assumption that everyone is working towards the same goal is wrong.

Not based on any of those.  Based on the properties of the water and electricity as best I can discern based on the videos.  Don't bite my finger.  Look at where it's pointing.

Paul

[oldhermit]

Sooo... after this thread began as one for people trying to duplicate s1r9a9m9's video results, turned into a lot of people managing to burn water from a sparkplug, and then onto the normal discussion format of arguing over who's right and who's wrong and whether tis better to proceed by trial and error in your garage or if instead it was necessary to have strict scientific procedure by "qualified" personnel....

                          Did anyone ever try making that gizmo s1r9a9m9 showed in Video_3 and what            was the end result?  I'm going to this weekend (have to get a new sparkplug for the engine and an inverter today)  and would like to know others results, if any, for comparison.