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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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gotoluc

Quote from: Chris31 on August 28, 2008, 12:33:03 AM
I agree, I think we need to mix water with some fuel at least, then on top of that use plasma spark to explode the mix.

I have just done a quick water/veg oil mixing using a fog machine. The results look encouraging, I get pop and flames  ;D

Here is the link

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5450.0.html

Cant wait to see your demo luc :o

Good direction on your part there Chris31. I saw your post and pictures at goldenequity's Emulsifying Brown's Gas Topic and I think you're doing great work.

So are you thinking the veggie oil will also keep the engine oiled up as it's going through the crankcase? 

Keep up the good work ;)

Luc

Chris31

Quote from: gotoluc on August 28, 2008, 02:02:10 AM
Good direction on your part there Chris31.

So are you thinking the veggie oil will also keep the engine oiled up as it's going through the crankcase? 

Keep up the good work ;)

Luc

Yes Im hoping the veg is gonna work as lubricant while the engine is running, I know they are thicker but atleast its gonna lub the engine. I think Ill run the engine on fuel/oil mix just to flush out the veg oil and water residue each time Im done with the experiment. Its a small engine so it should be easy to flush the junk out. If it come to the worst Ill strip the engine and clean it up.

At the moment, I need to build the electronics and get the engine running on plasma spark with normal fuel/oil and play around with the timming abit. Once that done, what I would like to do next is brute force, mix veg oil (or diesel/petrol) with water, heat it up to maybe 70 deg before feeding it to the carb, then use plasma to explode the mix.

I hope it work  :-\

nul-points

Quote from: gotoluc on August 28, 2008, 01:51:17 AM
Quotesince there is supposedly a longitudinal force in the direction of high-current flow, has anyone with a 'nail-type' spark gap seen any evidence of the gap electrodes being forced apart?

thanks
sandy

Hi Sandy,

I was going though the posts and looking for something an read your post and it rang a bell ::) ... a user named Gibs of the Energetic Forum (where they also have a topic going on about the circuit) was doing tests with a spark plug electrodes under water and reported this.

"I observed significant opening of the gap after a couple of dozens of under water explosions.
It started at .015" and it went to approximately .100", the ground electrode literally bent out!!!"


Link: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/2242-water-sparkplug-22.html#post26878


hi Luc

thanks for the follow-up - interesting info!

you see, what i'm thinking is: if the force is across the spark/plasma - not around it - then maybe we should be striking the spark/plasma between one electrode and the piston at (just past?) TDC- not just across the spark plug?

what do you think?

all the best
sandy

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plasmastudent77

My 2 cents.......I'm trying to find an old 2 stroke mower engine to try putting 4 spark plugs into a do it yourself 1/2 inch plate steel cylinder head, so I can deliver a lot more energy to the fuel.

I might even try a water/gas mix of 50/50 to see how things go. My thoughts are that more energy delivered to the water or water/gas mix might be enough to get it to fire. Worth a try. I keep coming back tot he Papp engine ( I know its a separate topic ) but they have BIG electrodes that protrude into the cylinder fromt he head to maximise contact with the fuel - my thinking is that it may require this level of redesign to deliver the required big boot up the ass to the fuel, to get it to ignite.

gotoluc

Quote from: nul-points on August 28, 2008, 07:01:54 PM
hi Luc

thanks for the follow-up - interesting info!

you see, what i'm thinking is: if the force is across the spark/plasma - not around it - then maybe we should be striking the spark/plasma between one electrode and the piston at (just past?) TDC- not just across the spark plug?

what do you think?

all the best
sandy

Doc Ringwood's Free Energy site  http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc

Hi Sandy, are you saying we use the top of the piston as our ground Electrode? 

Even if that was not what you meant I'm going to test it and see what happens.

Let me know as well.

Thanks

Luc