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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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Dread

Luke,

Happy to oblige. Do you want results of the effect posted here or there?

X-Box,

Thanks man.

Rgds.
D

GrawpSVK

Does somebody know this?
http://www.thejoecell.com :
QuoteHow is it possible?

It is has been reported that when clean water is prepared properly in a joe cell, certain specific types
of bubble production result on the surface of the water. This in itself may give a valuable clue as to
the cause of the energy. When these bubbles are ignited, they often create an extremely violent
reaction with an associated sonic boom. It is highly likely that what is occurring here is related to a
principle known as Cavity Quantum Electrodynamics.
I've know about the joe cell technology for a four years now,.... never had time to built one, anyway I have had only a very very little of q. physics in school yet.

Read this http://www.thejoecell.com. Use google cache in case it doesn't work.

sorry for my english

gotoluc

Quote from: Dread on September 05, 2008, 08:34:56 AM
Luke,

Happy to oblige. Do you want results of the effect posted here or there?

X-Box,

Thanks man.

Rgds.
D

Hi Dread,

what you can do since you are familiar with the circuit here is after some time when you get as familiar with capacitor70 circuit is share how much time it took you to get the circuit built and working (compared to this one), how low of uf cap value at xx volts can you use and still get the effect (compared to this one) which should give us an idea of efficiency and any advantages you may find (compared to this one).

That would be helpful

Thanks

Luc

GrawpSVK

Another quote from www.thejoecell.com
Quotethen in 1969, interest in steam electricity
was renewed because of explosions caused by the ignition of vapors during the washing of oiler
tankers with steam jets. Steam electricity is supposedly explained by the bubbles nucleated in the
boiling of water droplets, behaving like resonant quantum electrodynamic (QED) cavities. During
bubble growth as the bubble cavity resonance coincides with vacuum ultraviolet frequencies, the
water molecules on the bubble walls dissociate by cavity QED into hydronium H3O+ and hydroxyl OH-
ions.
Doesn't it sound familiar?

vlindos

Quote from: gotoluc on September 05, 2008, 11:13:47 AM
Hi Dread,

what you can do since you are familiar with the circuit here is after some time when you get as familiar with capacitor70 circuit is share how much time it took you to get the circuit built and working (compared to this one), how low of uf cap value at xx volts can you use and still get the effect (compared to this one) which should give us an idea of efficiency and any advantages you may find (compared to this one).

That would be helpful

Thanks

Luc
@luc:
Hi Luc,
Let me answer instead of Dread.
I went for Cap70 circuit because had to use over 65 diodes (every 1000v ) in order to prevent the HV spark going to the big capacitor. I this is thing that I found from from several days of tries/mistakes, it was really hard.
That's why tried the cap70 circuit and it started to work at once - so fast that I didn't believed it. Of course there is disadvantiges of the cap70 and it is important one. The traf used to get HV spark transformed to the first spark plug delivers very little of the HV spark because of the capacitors and transformers. That's you get something like 500pF energy @ 6000v which is enough for getting the effect same like with the diodes but not enough for getting effect in engine under compression (at TDS there is 8x pressure than at the room) and turbulention(from fuel/air incoming). However you can avoid also that by increasing the turns (& size) of the traf as also increasing the voltage of the capacitors.

@everyone:
Just wanted to share some thoughts which are objective and not influenced by overunity fanaticism.
I'd read several articles of Graneau (and son) works. These are the people that had studied the effect we trying to achieve here.
So the effect is real.
They believed that after effect the water molecules are splitted each other. The overunity energy came from the energy that is holding the H20 molecules together. And this from otherside is coming from the sun. However many people believed (even some of the people worked with P. Graneau) that his calculation about overunity of the effect are big mistake. But even if no mistake according to Graneau we getting overunity about 2 to input energy. Do you think that is enough for alternator to make energy so can feed the engine? I don't - that's why believe that s1r9a9m s work is lie (who knows?).
However there is something else, if really there is overunity we can utilize the wasted energy using "Tesla Switch". Remembered that we'd used a bulb's for feeding the big capacitor and preventing the shorts. In analogue way we can use the current after the big sparks to feed another capacitor (see what the tesla switch projects in the forum). That will definately increase the COP and make things possible.
But you may be see it's all thought and it need a lot of tries and mistakes to clear the way.
This is the way I am following and believe the same way as some of the people here.
Unfortunately I am still having problem with compression on my engine so I cannot help you guys more real world data currently. Although  I hope that I did helped somebody by my thoughts.

Thanks.