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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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Discharge

All,

I post at EF as "tstorey." I have spent the last three months doing a sub par job of figuring out what the "effect" is.

From endless study of youtubes,  discourse with a dozen different "circuit replicators," still more communication with assorted mechanical engineers and physicists I really don't have much. In a way this is good. It has not been defined which leaves us with some solid "maybes."

The one known area of research that I haven't been able to eliminate is SL. SL, like so many areas of research involving "fusion," is hopelessly riddled with emotion and politics. It is also riddled with complex experiments that have very little to do with Luc's circuit and tap water.

I like the shrimp because they don't need a $14 million dollar funding grant from the defense department to stun some plankton with a bubble.

The effect has been defined as follows. None of this is true because there is no money for measuring equipment.

The discharge travels at about 15,000 mph (10 microseconds) This is pretty quick and maybe the key. This is about the duration speed of a professional photographer's strobe.

The light emission has been inaccurately measured at 40,000 lux which is photographer's language for "photon count." This is very bright.

The sound emission is measured at 120db. Gun shot is about 170 db. Pretty loud for a 1 or 2 mm spark.

Three researchers have encountered measuring device interference..voltmeters, oscilloscopes, ammeters and digital thermometers register nonsense until brought far enough away from the discharge to return to normal.........why? Could it be particle radiation? I do not mean ionizing radiation. This could be an emission from the effect the most obvious being photons. The more energetic the event the more energetic the photon.

Questions:

1) Brilliant 40,000 lux Photon radiation is a marker for gas bubble implosion (ââ,¬Å"Water Spark plug IIIââ,¬Â). Significant increase of photon count with addition of water is a marker for H20* bubble implosion(?). (that is right steam bubble vapor implodes too)

2) Shock wave and resulting 120 db sound emission are markers for bubble implosion. Addition of H20 results in amplification of shock wave by 10 X and sound emission by 2X thus a marker for H20* implosion(?).

3) Digital measuring equipment interference is a marker for particle
    radiation(?)/extraordinary EMF.
   
    Particle radiation(?) is a potential marker for ionizing photons as
    measuring equipment is designed to function in the presence of generic EMF
    fields.

4) Full spectrum light emission in the (non H20) water Spark Plug IIIââ,¬Â is a
   potential marker for bubble collapse. Violet to blue to full spectrum light emission
   in WSP IV is a possible marker for atomic Hydrogen in LDE.

5) Potential instant dissociation of 65 degree F  tap water into atomic hydrogen
    would be a marker for implosion temperatures.

6) The amount of voltage and the size of the spark is out of balance with ââ,¬Å"sizesââ,¬Â
     of the shock wave, sound emission, photon count and possible H20 dissociative
     properties of the effect. This suggests that sonoluminesence (bubble implosion)
     may explain some of  the discharge's observed effects.

The ability of the discharge to utilize water through possible dissociation during the effect might be a marker for implosion temperatures. Energy input and effect's ââ,¬Å"sizeââ,¬Â seems inadequate to confirm electrolysis which would yield an, as yet unobservable, ââ,¬Å"combustible hydrogen gas (HHO).ââ,¬Â .

It would be of interest to observe the effect in a pressurized/contained environment as all effect components in current test configurations are subject to rapid dissipation.

It is also observed that the effect itself is quite ââ,¬Å"smallââ,¬Â potentially suggesting that only, relatively small amounts of hydrogen are involved if, indeed, any is involved at all.

Fusion is not yet disproved. I know we all hope this might be the fusion of atomic hydrogen into Helium and H2 or whatever and the release of energy from same.

Augmentation of the effect with the addition of water is a key point. SL research has indicated that a temperature drop can increase the photon count. Water sprayed on a spark assuredly drops the temperature of the spark and in this effect the spark gets brighter.

I prefer that the H20 is dissociated into H of one form or another, but, maybe it is cooling the trodes and booting up the photon count.

Doesn't really matter. Both could still be about fusion.

Discharge hits the atmosphere at 15,000 mph and gas bubbles accelerate into small bubble clusters that begin to implode thus increasing heat and pressure on remaining bubbles. This "bubble world" is referred by science as a "fusion opportunity." In other words, they don't know what the heck is happening. They just know there is extreme pressure, extreme heat, high particle velocity and the resultant collisions.

The equipment does not get hot.

Any thoughts are welcome, but, measuring equipment would be far more welcome as I have the corner on the uninformed guessing game here.

Best to all, sorry about the book, but, this deserves one.


T



gotoluc

Quote from: wings on October 01, 2008, 04:20:59 PM


http://www.idac.rm.cnr.it/laboratory_files/idac02c.mpg


Hi wings,

thanks for your interest and for adding all these documents and the video link. I'm not much of a scientific guy but I know many who are in the background reading maybe interested in these.

We also have a new member from the Energetic Forum that has been studying this effect since the beginning. A welcome to user name: Discharge

Please do keep up this important study to ultimately find the best use for this effect.

Luc


gmeast

Quote from: gmeast on October 02, 2008, 02:13:00 AM
new video at Energetic Tube:

http://www.energetictube.com/play/Vacuum_Radiant_Energy/plasma%20CDI%20in%20vehicle


Because of the way Energetic Tube processes video, the close ups of the plug appears to be skipping, but in actuality it is not.  Hopefully the YouTube upload will be better.

Greg