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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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gotoluc

Quote from: gmeast on January 28, 2009, 03:06:18 PM
mixture and timing
Hi all,

I just got surprised out of my wit. All along people here had asked me how much I had retarded the ignition timing. I think Aaron (from energetic) and Luc were the first to ask me that. I had adhered to the stock timing for my initial testing which is 7.5 to 10 deg advanced. Things ran fine and I got good results.

I have been trying to refine my steam generation a little and partly accomplished my goals on that. Then I decided to lean the mixture somewhat because adding an inert gas (in this case steam) displaces some air 'oxygen' resulting in a richer mixture. I re-jetted to 0.0465" which is mid way between "stock" and "it ain't gonna run". I took it for a ride and it bucked, hesitated and so on. I check the electrical, scoped the VexUs system, checked the plugs ... bummer - nothing.

It was the timing. With a lean mixture and the water, the speed of combustion must be tremendous! I set the timing to 0 deg TDC and it was better and then 5 deg retarded and it feels great there. Now I can speak to the timing issue first hand.

I would say that plasma initiated combustion is much more energetic than the standard combustion by a considerable factor.

I am going to refine my take on the timing issue, try several points and then get back to testing. I am able to aspirate 50% more steam than before with the simple I.V. drip system ... so I'll keep that. I am taking in only part (not all) of the air through the heater box ... a change away from what I was going to do. I still may have to cool the bowl.

Thanks for reading this,

Greg

Excellent news once again Greg ;D

I always felt that if we could get the timing at TDC or past and the engine still runs well than that would be a real positive confirmation that we are on the right track.

Thanks for all your great work and sharing with all.

Luc

gmeast

Quote from: gotoluc on January 29, 2009, 11:32:04 PM
Excellent news once again Greg ;D

I always felt that if we could get the timing at TDC or past and the engine still runs well than that would be a real positive confirmation that we are on the right track.

Thanks for all your great work and sharing with all.

Luc

... you're welcome

Greg

gotoluc

Hi everyone,

below is a picture of a New Firestorm replica made by Robin David to which a set of 4 will be sent once again to Greg for comparative testing.

These new Firestorm's are made of Nickle. The reasons to try Nickle is that it has been reported to have a catalyst effect with water.

Hopefully soon Greg will have a set of 4 of these to compare them to the Beryllium Copper Alloy Firestorm's he is now using and testing.

We are hopeful the Nickle could further improve the performance and or economy of Greg's VW Bug.

Luc

djzissis

Hi everybody..!!
It's been a loooong time....!!
I had a lot of study the past weeks so any experiments were "iced"

I am coming back with a video, showing our Unity working. Nothing special, not an update.!
She is in my bedroom running on pure 93o alcohol (methanol)
I have changed the spark-plug to iridium. No plasma.!

Here is the video.:
(say hello to unity..!!!! ;D ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yWFR3UUEno

Regards,
Zissis

gotoluc

Thanks Zissis for the update and sharing your new video of Unity ;)

If I were you I would continue testing with alcohol since water mixes with it very well. What you do is add water until Unity has a problem running and then try to make changes that could help her to run better, when she does then add more water and keep tuning, modifying  and you may eventually get to more water than alcohol ;D

If you post your results and you have good results, then most probably Robin David would want to make you a Firestorm replica for Unity to further improve your results.

Keep up the research and sharing.

Luc