Show of hands

[thorlong]

Hello all, I have been a long time lurker and this is my first post. I have no real point to get across as I am just curious. I don't wish to be as offensive as the "Show Me" post but just who has gotten any one of these things to work in a practical manner? I can't define over unity as there are many things I don't have a clear understanding on. I am extremely fascinated by the HHO/electrolysis concept. I could only hope to see a magnet motor in my lifetime even if I believe it is possible. I just want a census of those who can honestly say "I have seen it" or "I have this". Anything; car/generator/boat/plane that runs on water, a magnet motor, a coil that multiplies the total amount of available power, etc.

-Thor William Long

[z.monkey]

Howdy Thorlong,

The trouble with "free" energy is that people expect something for nothing.  There is a fundamental misunderstanding of what a "free" energy device is.  Are these people expecting to create energy from nothingness?  I have seen new and outlandish ways to accumulate, scavenge, and generate energy, but I don't know if I could call them a "free" energy device.  Like, say for instance, take a solar cell.  You buy the cell, hook it up, and use it to run a fan.  You no longer have to pay for energy to run the fan.  However the energy is not generated out of nothingness from the solar cell, it is merely converting the sunlight into electricity.  With out the sunlight the solar cell is useless.  Other devices are the same.  One form of energy is exchanged, in whatever form, for another form of energy.  Now at this point let me interject and say that some forms of "free" energy are more intangible than others.  Something like a Zero Point Energy converter is more difficult to understand, but basically works in the same manner.  In the case of the ZPE converter the energy is coming from a place that we cannot perceive or measure so it is totally intangible to us.

I have also seen a variety of "perpetual machines" which rely on an extremely balanced system which conserves its own energy.  These devices can maintain their own momentum, but if you load the device or attempt to extract any energy they cease to be perpetual.

Another curious little thing is a Mobius strip, a one sided thing...

Blessed Be Brothers...

[AB Hammer]

Welcome to the forum thorlong

Well there will be a few new devices coming out this year. One nearly took off my thumbnail during a running test. Another can lift 4 times the weight to it's counter weight side by side without a long lever the same distance, a 400% gain. Another is floating a weight in any position. I am also helping another inventor that made a magnet wheel to get more power out of it. I am sure you will see some amazing things this year and the beginning of next year.