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Water for fuel - diesel

Started by nightlife, June 30, 2008, 01:48:44 AM

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nightlife

Gary already answered my question and he was right.

QuoteThat sounds like the " normal " way to trigger  an  ignition coil


gary

The first 110 volt igniter coil that comes to mind is a oil furnace igniter coil. You can find them in the common kerosene salamander heaters. I just happen to have a couple of them. One of which has a bad pump but the igniter still works fine. I will try it out tomorrow along with trying to blow up by wreckers motor by spraying water in the intake.

pese

Vegetable oil, also used one ... lot of vars are on way in Europ.

Rust:  Carl Cella have solved this problem 20 years ago wit his HHO Var.

Otherwise you will drive the motor like ALL LPG Cars that will be run with
LPG AND Gasoil. (LPG contains an lot of Water that condens after burning!)

The last 10mInutes you MUST deive with gasoline od Diesel to
dry all water  out (that is melanged in Oil,  sit in Valves outlet rnz).

It is no problem do run any motor this way, an nirmal lifetime.

The simplest way to use HHO ist to use an LPG Motor , or only the
LPG-Kit-Parts to cahnge the construction.

G.P



Quote from: resonanceman on July 03, 2008, 03:18:50 AM
Yaz

I guess  they could be used for  very short term tests 

The  problem  as I see it is that they are designed  to run on oil .   That oil  is not only the  fuel ........it also provides  the lubrication .        Water will provide  SOME  lubrication ......but not  near as much as oil .

Rust could also  be a problem  .


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Quote from: jeanna on July 02, 2008, 09:18:23 PM



OK now, the first thing to do is to make sure this is an implosion (or prove absolutely it is an explosion) I am sure someone can rig up a spark plug to fit into a plastic bottle and when it ignites it will be easy to see if it is an explosion or an implosion.





Jeanna

I think it is both 

years ago I  remember watching a  video  about  browns gas 
He filled  a plastic  container   with it  in a tank of water   then  ignited it .

water  rushed in and filled  the  container .

I am pretty sure that   HHO  explodes ........but then it  quickly .........or  sometimes  extreamly  quickly   condenses  causing  an implosion .
There have been  discussions  about the need to preheat the engine  to  slow the  condensation   down enough to  get   the engine to kick over   


gary

jeanna

Hi Gary,

Thanks for the exp.

I have found some of what I was looking for.

1- this is ripped off from zenarrow's beginning paragraph in his thread:

QuoteBrown's gas I read about in the 80's. He used it as a torch to weld an iron bar and a brick together, and could run his hand through the flame with water condensing on the surface of his hand.
When it ignited in a cylinder, it turned to water. And in fact sucked the pistons. So instead of firing near Top Dead Centre, the pistons needed to fire near Bottom Dead Centre. The exhaust was water

So, he was making that suggestion.

In the watercar pdf from S1R which will not allow me to copy/paste, I took a screen shot.
(next to last page on the bottom.)

Since I am unable to manipulate the text, I just want to point out that there is specific reference to implosion starting in the middle of the second paragraph. Beginning with "when the piston starts back down...

Have a look. I am trying to help here. I think some things will naturally fall into place if car people understand that it is probably IMplosion.

I will now retreat back into the background and just watch.

jeanna

nightlife

Sorry guys but I was unable to get my 6.9 to restart by just misting water in to the intake. It was ran until it reached the normal running temperature and then the fuel was disconnected then it died. I tried to restart it to make sure all the fuel was out and it would not start. I then sprayed water in to the intake with my mist sprayer as I tried to start it. It would not start. I feel I sprayed enough to start it, if it was to start. I did not want to spray to much.

I then reconnected the fuel lines and after bleeding the system, it started back up. It runs just fine as it did when I started. Therefore it will take more then just spraying water in to the intake. I want to try a couple other things like using charged water, steam, charged steam, and water vapor and then charged water vapor.
I would have tried those things today too, but I had to take the family to the Field of flight balloon festival here in Battle creek.

I did come across some info regarding charged vapors. I have seen some videos about this in the past but I thought it was a scam but I am starting to thing it may not be.

Watch these two next videos and tell me what you all think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMNCebzgCgg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2KRRgjcJTg&feature=related

If this really works, I think we can use it to fuel diesel engines as well as all fuel consuming engines and use water and or any liquid as fuel. I wonder how many MPG we can get from urine? LOL