Water for fuel - diesel

[resonanceman]

Gary, you maybe on to something and it would take some experimenting to see. I am wondering how the moisture in the air is going to affect things. Dry days opposed to rainy days. There is much to learn.

I am getting excited and I cant wait to get started.

I would say that  the humidity should  affect  this engine  about as much as it affects  a normal  diesel engine

I would  also think  that it   should   affect it less than  a  regular  car engine .........more  pressure at  combustion time ...... more heat  from compression . 

gary

[resonanceman]

Great thread! This really jogged my memory. I remember reading somewhere (aprox. 6 years ago) on the web, that back in early days of diesel engines, someone was cleaning and/or spraying down a hot engine with water. The guy had to crank the engines flywheel to get some of the water out that accidently got into the intake and the motor suddenly started up and was running!

The things that stand out in my mind from that article was that the engine had to be at operating temperature (hot) and the water had to be a minimum of 75 F.  As long as those 2 conditions are met they said that a diesel engine would run just on water alone.
I was going to try the experiment back when I first read about it but I had no access to a diesel.  Just recently in my town they sell 18 HP diesel motors for $800 but they're the chinese crap! (no thanks)

If anyones going to try it, I would get the engine running up to operating temp, get a spray bottle, fill it with boiling water and mist it into the intake as you shut the fuel supply off. Careful! Don't want to hydro lock the engine!  Damm I sure wish I could find that article!!

A friend of mine said that water might ruin the diesel fuel pump because the actual fuel lubricates the pump. Is this true? 
Then maybe make an adapter and mount a regular auto fuel injector to mist water into the engines intake manifold?

Now, with that plasma set up, and the compression of a diesel I would LOVE to see that sucker rev up!!!!  I'll keep my eye open for an old diesel car and try some experiments too!
All the best everyone!

Welcome    to the club Yaz 

I hope   you  get that   old  diesel car  and   start  expermenting .
each  person  has their  own  way of doing things .....maybe your  way is  the way that  makes it  work .   

Anyway ......... with  these kinds of  experments ...........more is  better . 


gary

[ramset]

ALL a diesel injector pump is like a swiss watch  lubrication will be an issue  However replacing the glow plug with the new plasma firestorm plug might be very interesting   Chet

[ramset]

OF course a 2 cycle diesel with no injector pump and just a fuel rail [detroit] wouldn't be as risky  Chet

[Mark69]

This is gonna be a great thread, exactly what I was looking for.  If you go the route of just HHO, I think the form of hydrogen produced, parahydrogen, would be better for a diesel, since it is slower burning then the other form?   Ironhead on this site is the expert on this, has a thread for it called "highvoltage HHO"  I was trying to build my test cell but am held up at the material to hold my plates.  I having trouble finding a way to hold the plates close enough together with the acrylic.  I dont have a machine shop to groove it, but was going to order 1/16" thick acrylic to use between.  I have a vw tdi motor i want to boost with the hho.  Also, if you inject the hho after the sensor, isnt it tru the computer will not know it is there, thereby not changing the current fuel rate?  (i dont have an O2 sensor). 
I would love to see all water, no diesel fuel needed.  But is the compression to high for that? (19.5 to 1 in mine)  I look forward to the progress!!!

Thanks,
Mark