Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !

[newton2]

Hello to Honoured Overunity-Forum-Profiles
and to The Honoured Administrator  !!

Thanks about Your respective various many interesting
important Discussions-points-and-details in this fruitfull
continued going-on Theme of Topic+Replies !!

Might I kindly disturb Your interesting Discussion by this
my mere brief short Reply´s-Text :

THE MAGNETICAL BASE  !!

Yes....I self have a filled-up Box of some various numbers of
various Magnetical-Base-Models of that Method mentioned some few Days
back  !!

HOW TO REALIZE AND INTERPRETE ABOUT THE FUNCTIONAL WAY
OF SUCH A MAGNETICAL BASE........:

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WHAT is IN FACT going on when adapting-mounting to an EXTERIOR PLANE IRON-PLATE
such a Magnetical-Base-Unit..........
IT "CLAMPS" in Its LOCK-POSITION then as FIRMLY per H-influenses
in the EXTERIOR IRON-PLATE to the EXTERIOR IRON-PLATE.......!!

Well-then...as MOSTLY KNOWN :
WHAT a LOT of counter-force to be performed by Human Fingers
to would loosen-away in LOCK-POSITION......several hundreds of "newtons".....at least...
.............or more at most !!

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THOUGH THEN IF TO SHOULD LOOSEN-AWAY BY TURNING FROM ON->to->OPEN
Position then THE ARM´s HANDLE on The Unit.......
Yes.....THERE ALSO IS A "FELT" COUNTER-FORCE AGAINST TURNING FROM
LOCK->to->OPEN........
might be easily measured per an elder "Spring-Weight" mounted and held steady as
perpenducular to the Unit´s-Release-Arm..........

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MIGHT THERE EVENTUALLY BE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE
[NECESSARY-TORQUE APPLIED TO Unit´s-Arm  x  Way/Angle-Distance of turned Unit´s-Arm]--
Physical-Work-Done
AND
THE
[NECESSARY-GREAT-LIFTING-FORCE FROM IRON-PLATE x The VERY-SHORT-Lifting-Off
                                                                                      Iron-PLate-distance]--
Physical-Work-Done....................!!

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When lifting as "raw-forced" OFF the Unit directly from IRON-Plate ,
THEN is on for a VERY SHORT DISTANCE a necessary HIGH Force to
should apply.......
then afterwards only little Force of H-magnetical Origin (plus then eventually some
                                             (otherwise Gravitational Force because of
                                              also lifting The Unit in a G-Field )

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NOW WHEN LOOSENING PER TURNING Unit´s Arm from ON->to->OFF....
then the ROTATIONAL PERMANENT-MAGNETE´s respective 2 H-Poles
(Terms of Elder Classical Magneto-Statics)  are moved many
[little "angle-step--to-step"] AWAY "over" "longer" Distance/Angle
from The Unit´s Own 2 INTERNAL-Iron-permeabilities-
Plates (Plates of not of permanent magnetism) ]..........
though STILL a WORK is done of TURNING FROM ON->to->OFF ,
namely the Part of a H-pole as being moved AWAY from the H-influensed
IRON-PLATES in THe UNit ......
somehow like in surden Electro-Motors-Layouts-TOPOLOGIES / METHODS !!

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In a Way of Popular Physics Explanative Speakings ....THEN :

in a "subtle" Way there is a kind of "Magnetical Gearing" of Necessary Applied
Forces all depending on  :

IF per the "RAW" directly PULLING-OFF THe Unit from the EXTERIOR LARGE
IRON-METALS-PLATE

or

IF per the more "continuously" Necessary- Applied Force of the
INTERIOR-THe-Unit  H-poles-moving-away-from-opposite-signed-H-pole !!

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Some few numbers of Processes-Steps-depicting
Elementary Sketchings would "GREATLY" demonstrate
the ALL of such a Magnetical-Base-Unit´s Method !!

MUCH MORE QUICKER TO REALIZE ABOUT THAN NUMEROUS MANY
EXPLANATIVE SENTENCES !!

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APROPOS :
HOW ABOUT TO HAVE IN-BE-TWEEN THe Magnetical-Base-Unit´s Outer-H-Poles(of the ON-Position)
and
THE EXTERIOR LARGE METALLICAL-IRON-PLATE
then placed a single thin A4-writing/printing-on Paper-Sheet....
quite enough to demonstrate
about the significant THEN-ALTERED-VALUE of
necessary "RAWLY"-applied-Force to MOVE AWAY
The Unit´s Outer-H-poles to Exterior Metallical IRON-PLate
.........to say : WITH or WITHOUT having such a SINGLE A4 paper-sheet in-be-tween.......!!

AND THEN ALSO TO DEMONSTRATE AN ALTERED NECESSARY TURNING-TORQUE
TO THE Unit´s Arm to TURN from ON->to->OFF  !!
.........to say :  WITH or WITHOUT having such a SINGLE A4- paper-sheet in-be-tween....!!

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THANKS ABOUT YOUR  MANY INTERESTING IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTIONS
TO THIS CONTINUED DISCUSSION OF OU-per-Magneto-Statics and per Electro-Magnetics...!!

PLEASE MENTION EVEN MORE....of course with due Care for Your various Own Ideas and
Copyrights...etc !

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WKR & have Yourselves a nice Day and Labouring Week and a pleasant Late Autumn !

And still a little to early to would greet about : Hoo-Hooo.........etc !! 

[Charlie_V]

@wizkycho

The idea at http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3979.msg74303#msg74303 with the holder/lifter and the coils will not work because the back EMF from the coil will make it very difficult to rotate the diametric magnet in the center.  That's why I think it would be perfect for this project since the inductance change between the gap is "suppose" to be equal all the time. 

Your idea of using the ring like you show in your picture is good but the problem is that the magnet/core things are not going to leave the washers very easily.  This will cause all the energy gained from the pistons to be lost due to magnetic stiction.  You might be able to balance the movement of the magnet/cores with a second row/piston setup that was to the side and 90 degrees out of phase with the first.  Personally I think keeping the magnets inside the core and just rotating them like I drew would give the best results.  And really, I'm not convinced this setup has constant inductance - if it does we could possibly get overunity, if not then its a lost cause - another energy converter.

@newton2

Cocaine is a really bad drug man.

[AbbaRue]

@wizkycho
A combination of the rotating magnet and the pistons you drew are the best idea I've seen yet.

[Yucca]

Yes, nice design Wiz!

Yucca.

[Butch]

To keep the core flux density of this device as constant as possible during the period the moving elements are moving, saturation is very important. It's hard for the flux density to change in the coil core if the core circuit stays at saturation.
More video coming soon, I have around 5000 files to sort through.
Free energy for all,
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte