Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !

[wizkycho]

Hello Koen1

I'm with you in this matter and I have thought a lot about it lately and I think I have found the reason why it won't work.
As usually when people go crazy over something and totaly believe they have found the holy grail they always miss
out on something that "they didn't think of". And that scenario is repeated every time. Sometimes thinking is of good use.

The thing is: A setup using a line of washer piles placed between a moving horseshoe magnet will have an unwanted effect.
The nearby piles will also get repelled by the magnet and it declines from the center of the strongest magnetic field, being the magnet.
The repel force from the washers will spread out on all affected piles of washers. And the accessible power is consumed by inertia.
So this is the nail in the coffin on the washer idea...To bad, for a short while I really hoped we had something good going on here.

This is just your negative assumption ...where is your negative experiment ?

Why would mag. flux go sideways if direct path (shortest path) is not satturated ?
Of course it wan't !!! It can not. flux chooses shortest possible path with less mag. resistance.

Even Spetrum 16k will tell You:
"C nonsense in basics"

Wiz

[Ergo]

I'm not negative, I'm realistic and I also know a thing or two about magnetic flux lines.
It will take the route past the other washer as well because ut tries to find the easiest path
that is the furthest away from saturation. Try it on and you'll see I'm right in this matter.
The only way to prevent the other washers from being affected is to increase the air gap
between the piles of washers, but then you'll face a sticky spot when trying to leave the pile.

When you have realised I'm right here, I expect a public excuse in this thread for all your
yelling, stubbornness and sassy behavior when told how things hang together.

[hartiberlin]

@wizkycho and @Ergo:

The soft iron core with the square washers in there really must be driven via a LC tank at the resonance frequency,
otherwise you will not get any high OU COPs.

Mechanically driving it with magnets makes not much sense to me.

Just try a coil with a cap and go for resonance at the same
frequency as the washers reciprocate.

Regards, Stefan.

[altium]

Any results with real experiment?

[wizkycho]

I'm not negative, I'm realistic and I also know a thing or two about magnetic flux lines.
It will take the route past the other washer as well because ut tries to find the easiest path
that is the furthest away from saturation. Try it on and you'll see I'm right in this matter.
The only way to prevent the other washers from being affected is to increase the air gap
between the piles of washers, but then you'll face a sticky spot when trying to leave the pile.

When you have realised I'm right here, I expect a public excuse in this thread for all your
yelling, stubbornness and sassy behavior when told how things hang together.

No excuse cause you are teribly wrong.

Magnet flux doesn't act as electron current . Electron current will lineary of resistance devide its curents through two paths. complete magnet flux will not devide proportionaly(lineary) of mag resistance but whole of it will pass through one path with less resistance, while it has larger permeability.
big difference. You are talking complete nonsesne.
Permeability means most desireable path for mag flux. How can You possibly think that flux will jump over air that has perm of only 1 ?
rather than go through not saturated material of desireability 5000. Have You ever seen B-H curve ? no I don't think so. saturation starts sudenly not lineary. means mag. res. starts to be huge sudenly not linery with applied field. before that resistance of perm material is much much much lower than 1mm air gaps resistance
Hey man, this is 5000 to 1 that you are talking nonsens.(exprimentaly meassured !)

Why would magnet flux detour for a longer path for no reson (mag. res. didn't rise (not satturated) - on the other hand mag.res of 1mm air gap is huge) ?, only to make you happy that you destroyed logic. I think You should detour from this forum.

O man do think, please someone tell him to worm up his chair.

I can publicly only call for You to be banned from this forum, cause you say something is not working not giving it a slightes tought. what a destroyer. You are destroying this forum...this is clear.

And even more important you don't make any ,not even simplest experiments, to prove your "wannabe it is so" theories. You act destructively Man, how can't you get it, change your perspective and try from now on think Why something is working. This is important most of all. That way you will learn more. And You'll be able to combine principles that work into eventuall FE setup. The way You see things nothing can work. not even underunity devices. 

Wiz

(some words and sentances, since I am civilized, were not appropriate in previous letters - so I'm making appology to others that read one of my
previous replays - but it was provoked too many times) This is not in anyway appology to whome these replays were directed to.