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Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !

Started by Butch, July 02, 2008, 01:01:34 PM

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Butch LaFonte

Quote from: gpezzella on November 23, 2008, 04:09:59 PM
Dear Butch

can I use principle from you discovery for build my own magnetic motor, of course different from your?

Thanks
Gpezzella,
Which principle are you talking about?
Butch

gpezzella

Dear Butch

the one descived from you in this forum, the iron disks that under magnetic field separe itself.
If I have understand well this principle was already know but never used.
Thanks

newton2

Hello Honoured Profiles
and
THe Honoured Administrator
of This The Honourable OVER-UNITY-Forum  !!

This Continued Discussion is about a strictly SMOT-alike Magneto-Statical-
OU......yes.......
PARDON about my interferences per my Replies.......
for my Replies hardly are mentioning strictly about SMOTS......
though tempting to would write about some quite other OU-Circumstances than SMOTS....
because of This Continued Discussion being the "Hot-News-promoted" Discussion per the
Original Topic (on p 1 )..............!!

Might I kindly briefly just mention per some selected wordings about :

************The Importance of the RESIDUAL H-magnetical-Field from
the "Short-solenoides-Air-core"-Coil
if-when a socalled "regulary Shapes Ring" of mu-r-
permeabilities-material is "placed" "through-outly-filling" the
inner-space of the Coil.....!!

THÉN per involving the MOST-DIFFICULT-to-would-screen-out-balancing-
the-Solenoidal-Coil´s-H-field per mu-r-permeabilities-Materials-CIRCUMSTANCE/
PROBLEMATICS
is THÚS rather "CLEARLY" to should THÉN NOT just apply
the commonly "accepted"  "Rule" most often "found" in
both Practical-Physics-Theorizings and in Technics :
>> To would evaluate the Situation of Coils placed on
>> mu-r-permeabilities-materials as "Maths-equal"-in-Maths-Formalism
>> to electrical-currents/voltages-ohmical-Networks...........

In SHORT-FORM :
it is MOST difficult to would OUT-BALANCE
the "Air-core´s-H-field" from a common short-length-regulary-Shapes-
Solenoide"
per just applying some various mu-r-permeabilities-materials as
"done" in "Commercials Manufactured Power-Transformers"........

....though-though : the REGULARY SHAPES-TOROIDAL-coil........
THEN COMPARED TO A SHORTLY-LENGTHED SOLENOIDE (as often used
in commercial power-transformers.....................

"And most retorically spoken" :
might THEN the "cosed" ohmical-electrical-Networks-only-as-SUGGESTED-Pendant
to evaluate about "H-fields-in-mu-r-permeabilities-materials"-caused by an "Air-cored-
toroide"  HERE BY "USED".........
i.e. when "dealing" with an EXTERIOR H-field to should interfere with a TOROIDE wound
in regular "Pitch-Form" on a TOROIDAL HOMOGENOUOS Mu-R-Permeabilities-Shape/"Ring"....

PERHAPS STILL NEITHER JUST AS "EASY" TO WOULD "DO" TO EVALUATE......
for EXTERIOR-H-field causes separate H-INFLUENSES- SPACES in The Toroides-Ring
.........then allthough Windings are mutually-serially-electrically-connected ,
then STILL also are involved Circumstances of THAT Windings "having" Exterior H-fields-.
gradientes as "perpendiculary"-Right-on-mu-r-permeabilities-Surface (a kind of Boundary-circumstance of Magnetical Materials) compared to the in fact becoming-to-be H-influensed parts of the Toroidal-Rings-Material........!!

Allthough "Close" Evaluations-Theories might be applied to such Situations ,
then EMPERICALLY PERFORMED MEASUREMENTS per small-SMD-cased
Hall-Elements might really "DO" to evaluate about the "free-spatial-H-fields"......!!

These my few wordings are mere PRE-introductive Wordings to such Problematics.......

for REALLY lots of Wordings & Maths might have to be involved.........!!

-----------------------------

WKR & have yourselves a nice Day and Labouring Week and a pleasant
Early Winter and For Whom It might be relevant : Merry Xmas 2008 & Happy NewYear 2009 !!

And my THANKS to Your All for Your various important interesting Contributions to
THe Honourable Course of OU  !!   

Butch LaFonte

Quote from: gpezzella on November 24, 2008, 04:10:03 AM
Dear Butch

the one descived from you in this forum, the iron disks that under magnetic field separe itself.
If I have understand well this principle was already know but never used.
Thanks
Build your machine, if it works give it to the world.
Butch