Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !

[newton2]

Hello Honoured Profiles
and The Honoured Administrator
of This The Honourable OVER-UNITY-Forum  !!

My Thanks to The Honoured Profile Infringer for "bringing-along" in The
most recent Reply then an Ideas-Concept............I kindly suppose........
for JUST AS "CLOSE" IN IDEAS-CONCEPT as described per The INFRINGER´s
Wordings
to a REAL MECHANICAL-ELECTRO-MAGNETICAL  OU-DEVICE........

I REALLY SUPPOSED , when reading at first THE INFRINGER´s Reply´s-Text ,
that THE INFRINGER "DESCRIBES" per though revealingly Wordings ,
that THE INFRINGER ANNOUNCED THE BASICAL IDEAS-CONCEPT ABOUT
SUCH A REAL Mechanical-Electro-Magnetical-OU-Device "delivering"
NO-counter-torques-Electro-Generative Power............
per an elementary nearly-to-Nature´s-Principles  OU-Construction.....!!

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[ It is of less importance , that I Self frankly once-upon "designed" and built
  such OU-Devices......to make well steerable OU-Power-Outputs of User-
  Specified Current(time) and Voltage(time)-wave-forms-or-DC.........
  hardly interesting......!! ]

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WKR & have Yourselves a nice Day and a pleaant Winter ;
and For Whom It Relates :  Merry Xmas 2008 & Happy NewYear 2009  !

And my kind Thanks about Your All of interesting important Contributions to
                 THE  HONOURABLE  COURSE  of  OU  !!
     

[newton2]

Hello Honoured Profiles
and The Honoured Administrator
of This The Honourable OVER-UNITY-Forum !

Might I kindly briefly per a few Sentences mention merely hintingly about :

************The Original Mechanical Computing Gears-Wheels ENIGMA
EN-cryption and DE-cryption  Devices  "had" in Their Methods some
lesser-known-realized about Problematics......in Their
Maths-intended-EN-&-DE-Cryptions-Algoritms.....!!

At first :
The Original Ancient Rome´s socalled "Cesarian Code" was somehow
like to "shift"-"Basal-Codes-Roots"-some-"Places"-per-Each-Letter
INSTEAD of
"having" The Statical One-Basal-Roots-Code "founded" on to "choose" some
Codes-Letters to Codes-express the Languages-Letters........!!
The "STATICAL..........Code" THOUGH does NOT directly involve the WHOLE
LENGTH of THE MESSAGE<=> to say : there are NO changes in Statical......Codes-
Root  "regardless" of Message´s Length/Contents........and such "Statical.....Codes" most often might de DEcoded even in available-only as some Fragmental-Sentences........ !!

Then about "Cesarian Code"-Method .........in THAT "Code" there ARE some IN-directly
EXTRA/FURTHER-Informations about ALL of Message´s Lengths/Contents BECAUSE
of the INCORPORATED  Shifts-of-Basal-Roots-per-Letter-to-be-ENcoded...........
And if ONLY FRAGMENTAL-SENTENCES are to be DEcoded ,
THÉN appear surden Problematics like i.e....: inwhere in Letters-Array ARE the
Fragmental-Sentences to be positioned ( because of Roots-per-Letters-shifts).......
THOUGH STILL it might be possible to DEcode surden long-enough Fragmental-Sentences
be fairly easy cut&try-Methods............
AND FURTHER the "Cesarian Code" even UN-veals even per long-enough-Fragmental-Sentences about THe WHOLE LENGTH of The Original Message.......just per the extra/further informations because of THe  Cesarian Code Methods Algorithm........!


"NOW" about The socalled Original Mechanical Historical Gears-Wheels-ENIGMA-Method,
inwhere BOTH is a kind of "Cesarian Code" , AND even further is a "Codes-Algorithm-Roots-Shift" also because of the SIGNEFICANT-LETTER to be ENcoded.................

IF only are some Fragmental-Sentences from such ENIGMA-ENcoded-Sentences (to suppose the SAME of Wheels-Code) ,
THÉN there are even more EXTRA/FURTHER-informations involved besides the Original Message (to be EN-DE-Coded about).................
the LENGTH of the Original Message might be fairly in Maths-complexities
STATED about........
THOUGH somehow to surden LIMITS EVEN ALSO the WHOLE of Message´s OWN-Letters-Contents (IF though supposed the Fragmental-Sentences to be ALSO including some of the last of the Basal-Message.............)
SUCH though in Views of reliable EN-DE-Cryption of "ecret Messages" might indeed be troublesome......to say: for The-Message´s-Original-(n+1)-Letter´s-GRANTED-Enigmatian-ENcoded-Letter  DOES ALSO "ENCLOSE" a "hidden" Information about the ALL of hitherto Message´s Original (n),(n-1),......1-Letters..........because of THe Enigmatian ENcode-Algorithms-Maths-Properties.......!!
(Of course such might be compensated for....to surden extents though....)


"NOW" the socalled MODERN-TIMES-EN-DE-CRYPT-Maths-Algorithms..........
the COMMERCIALLY & OFFICIALLY "OFFERED" SORTS of Algorithms
DO MIGHT per "Hacker-Computer-especial-Hacher-DE-code-Algorithms"...

SUCH have been DEMONSTRATED about.........i.e. o "BREAK" the socalled "LARGE-PRIMES-NUMBERS"-Algorithms-Codes per some "BREAK-Codes-Algoritms" resulting in FVRAGMENTAL ORIGINAL SENTENCES being "shown" together" with "Noises"........!!

Might I kindly and franly mention about :
>> OF COURSE THAT NEARLY ALL OF COMMERCIALLY & OFFICIALY OFFERED
>>EN-DE-Cryptions-Algorithms-Codes ARE MOST "KNOWN" also to
>>"Surveilling-Services" and "Sneakers" and "Eaves-Droppers-Spies"...........
>>......
>>THOUGH......YES....it IS possible to make surden UNbreakable Codes of
>>EN-DE-Cryptions of "Own Secret Informations"........
>>.......
>>for it is a "Matter of making a reliable Founding"
>>for EN-DE-Code of Informations...PLUS ALSO OF IMPORTANCE
>>to "realize and state" about [WHAT ARE INFORMATIONS in NATURE].....!!
>>..........
>>to kindly hint slightly-just-little about :
>>"SUPER"-informative Algorithms "having" involved MORE of Informations-Contents
>>THAN the SYSTEM´s-Own-"Signs"-Possibilities <=>indeed most roughly briefly
>>expressed..........!!
>>......
>>and if "Such" might "sound" TOO "far-out" , THÉN.....: the JUST briefly written
>>introductive explanative Wordings about "Cesarian Code" and "Enigma Codes".....!!
>>DO "hint" about some possibilities of "SUPER-Informative"-Systems......!!

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Of COURSE might be obviously asked about :
WHY discuss about EN-DE-Cryption-Circumstances in THIS continued-going-
on-Discussion of a kind of SMOT-Method to should "generate" OU............
wel-then.......tis continued-going-on Discussion "happened" to involve then also about
EN-DE-CODE of OU-written-Results/Drawings....etc !

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Might I "just" mention :
In Ancient Rome there was a Way of Speaking somehow like :
>> Ohhhh Times , Ohhhh  Morales......!  <<

In Presnt Times "Modern World" perhaps might be mentioned :
>> NO PRIVACY ANYMORE....! <<

For Whom To Trust.........For What of Consequences if Results are UNvealed/Eaves-dropped....etc !!

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WKR & have Yourselves a nice Day and Weekend and a pleasant Winter ;
and For Whom It Relates :  Merry Xmas 2008 & Happy NewYear 2009  !

And my Thanks about Your All of interesting important Contributions to
make more of reliable Knowledges to   
                             
                                  THE MANKIND
     
and to make Supportings to

              THE  HONOURABLE  COURSE  OF  OU  !!
 

[newton2]

Hello Honoured Profiles
and The Honoured Administrator
of This The Honourable OVER-UNITY-Forum !

Might I mention about :

THIS DATO 2008-12-16  THIS  MORNING in LOCAL TIME app. 06.21 (AM) [ app GMT 05.21]

HERE IN SOUTHERNEST of SCANDINAVIA   appeared

a FAIRLY "LARGE"  EARTH-QUAKE  (most seldom to appear here else....).....!!

THE EPI-CENTRE was located in Southernest of Sweden ;
at RICHTER-SCALE app 4.9 that Earth-Qukae I self really experienced ,
while I worked in my Office at my Table..........
FOR I LIVE JUST app. 160 kilometres (100 miles) away from The Geographical Location of the EpiCentre........!!

At first for some 10 seconds appeared "introducingly" some minor "faster" vibrations in
furnitures/building ,
THÉN appeared "suddenly" the "STRONGER" vibrastions for some further 10 seconds.....
"shaking anf little of jumpings" of furnitures/items/building because of "PULSES" at rates from 3-5-5 Pulses pr. second ("jump"-alike-Pulses)..............
THÉN with-in 1 second The ALL of Pulses dis-appeard/vanished away......

I knew at once to be an EARTH-QUAKE and prepared for MORE of PULSES , etc ,
plus began make "real-independent-wireless"-Radio-Transmissions to various Imortant Contacts
(meant for such eventual Public Catastrophical Situations).........

to "discuss" about various Precautions Tasks
like i.e. about the Swedish "BarseBack"-PowerPlant located just some 60 kilometres (40 miles)
away from my Site......!!

(It was so "strong" . that minor cracks in some Public Roads became , perhaps
also dis-placements of Founding-Grounds to some Bridges and Railways and Buldings , etc ) !

Because of THIS UNexpected Earth-Quake , and perhaps some sooncoming Earth-Quakes ,

I HAVE TO MAKE A LONGER "BREAK/PAUSE"  IN WRITING HERE IN OVER-UNITY-FORUM....!!


WKR & have Yourselves a nice Day  and a pleasant Winter ;
and For Whom It Relates :  Merry Xmas 2008 & Happy NewYear 2009  !

[Blainiac]

Sooooo...

Has anyone made any further progress on this concept?  I've been pondering different ways of doing this, and for a simple test I was thinking of doing a pendulum-type machine, where a 'fork' with magnets on both sides move past the steel plate piston, and there would be additional steel for the rest of the pendulum swing path to prevent it from 'sticking' the steel... and somehow output that piston movement to keep the pendulum going.

Any other ideas floating around out there?  Butch?  Yucca?

[lumen]

I have done a bunch of testing on the expanding washer concept, but the force generated is always equal to the force required to get them back to the collapsed state.

BUT..... you need to think not washers but magnets, then use iron plates to collapse them by drawing the field away. Testing shows that this takes the same force moving out as was gained moving in!

Also, avoid moving long distances between the plates as the domain switching in the steel will consume any gain you can achieve. This is what causes a cylinder magnet to not roll down a metal plate under it's own weight.