Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08

[Bobbotov]

Okay all.  I've finally figured out (in terms that I can understand) why this will not work.  My assumption was that the only major force that needed to be overcome is the repeling force of the stator magnets.  I thought this could be overcome by the fact that we can put as many mass switches on a wheel as necessary to create an imbalance that would do so.  But there is a limit to how many switches can fit on a wheel of a given diameter.  My solution to that was to increase the wheel as needed.  But here's the catch:  The repeling force of the stator magnets is applying a negative torque which is force x distance.  When the wheel is scaled the stator magnets move further out as well and therefore the resistive torque (not force) is also scaling linearly.

I made up some  drawings and charts to see if maybe the torque due to the larger wheel and more switches scaled faster than the resistive stator torque.  But it does not.  I have posted those in the download section for those that would like to see.  I used a mass switch with the 1/2 dia x 1/2 long magnets Magnet Helper was helping to model.  I shortened the guide tube to 5 inches and planned to fire the magnet that complete distance and latch at each end.

I did drawing and calculation showing a 24 inch wheel with 8, then 16, then 32 mass switches.  I then upped the wheel size to 48 inches and repeated with 8, 16, and 32.  The torque imbalance for these were identical to on the smaller wheel as many of you could have predicted.  The larger size wheel allowed me to double the number of switches again to 64.  But if you look at the gains in torque due to the imbalance it is not increasing proportionally or greater as would be needed to overcome the resistive stator torque.  The increase in torques are approximately:

8 to 16 switches - 208% increase in torque
16 to 32 switches - 202% increase in torque
32 to 64 switches - 201 % increase in torque

So the gains are diminishing.

Another problem is that as you put more and more switches on the wheel they become closer together and not just one switch magnet is being repelled by the stator magnet, but several.  Then next two or three are also starting to be repelled.

So unless the firing of the magnet upwards by approaching the stators from the sides allows it to fly so high that the resulting Potential Energy is more than the energy required to move it into firing position this idea is another version of every other gravity wheel and will not work.

Oh well.  I never set out to build a gravity wheel .  Or any other OU or "free energy" device since I don't believe those can exist without finding some unknown phenomenon or force.  But I could not see the flaw in this idea and the more I thought about it, the more intriguing it became.  For a simple electric motor can make torque due to the attraction of magnetic fields.  And magnetic field are conservative fields of force, just like gravity.  But in the motor we use electricity to make some of the fields generate in different directions so that the rotor keeps turning.  Gravity is always in one direction and we cannot generate it in different directions like with magnets.  But now I see the flaw. 

Thanks,

M.

Are you saying it is "game over?"

[mondrasek]

Yep.  It's can't work based off of everything I knew, have learned, and finally figured out.  It was a simple mistake of thinking the repulsive force of the stators would not change, and therefore I could always increase the torque due to gravity to overcome by scaling the wheel diameter and adding switches.  But the repulsive force of the stators is also acting as a torque and scaling the wheel diameter directly scales the repulsive force.  Easy to see now.  Wish someone could have seen/explained it in those terms to me slighly less than two weeks ago.

[ThothTheSecond]

Back again.  How about a combination trigate/Mondrasek wheel

[xee]

@ mondrasek
Where did you post your video?

[mondrasek]

Here.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl