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Overunity Machines Forum



Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08

Started by mondrasek, July 11, 2008, 04:55:49 PM

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TinselKoala

"So, so far we have a Besseler-Quinn-Bedini wheel. Let's add some more stuff. If you rotate the stator mags at the right time, in the opposite direction from the way they would rotate if they were simply geared, the rotor will experience a push-pull as the rotor magnets swing past the stators. Conversely, this same effect could be achieved with a reversing (not just an on-off) electromagnet.
So we would be building a Besseler-Quinn-Bedini-OCMPMM wheel."

From my post on the third page of this thread.

Omega_0

For those who can't download TK's 50 mb vid, the essential screenshot is attached.

So it takes more time to run down with stators at 1-7 oclock positions.
He says it can be due to bearing getting loose. But TK why don't you do a run down again without magnets and stators. If the bearings are looser, it will go beyond max time and we can go home ?

Also, what will happen if the stators are at 3-9 or 2-8 positions ?
And what happens if latches are included ?

(At 3-9 position it won't need latches to hold the magnets where they should be)
I have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing - Thomas Alva Edison

mondrasek

Here would be my explanation.  The blank wheel does not have the added mass and therefore the added inertia of the wheel with the magnets.  It cannot be direclty compared to the trials where the magnets are added.  To do so you need to run a wheel with the magnets added but not moving, and no stator interaction. 

I could do this on my wheel by configuring so all the magnets are near the latches by placing a ferous pin the the whistle cuts and letting the magnets catch.  TK, you could drill a pin hole in the middle of all your switch guide holes and do the same.  The run down time should then be longer than any of the configurations where the switches are in operation.

shakman

Has anyone considered setting this up so the stator at the bottom of the wheel fires before 6 o'clock?

I would imagine shooting the magnet when the arm is completely vertical and starting to rise on the left hand side (in a clockwise rotating wheel) would not be ideal in this design. Shooting it at 5 o'clock or 5.30 would mean that the magnet would begin moving to the left towards the centre of the wheel, the same direction that the arm is moving (as opposed to moving to the right after 6 o'clock, which is in the opposite general direction to which the arm is shifting) and would also reduce some of the gravity issues introduced with trying to shoot the magnet directly up.

There would still be an imbalance of weight on the falling side due to leverage.

@Clanzer/Tinsel

Care to test this idea?
Sorry I can't myself just yet. I've ordered some magnets from the USA to save some $$$... still waiting.

shakman

shakman

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 17, 2008, 02:04:13 PM
(EDIT speling)

LOL... speling  :D

Anyway, good video TK. Nice handy work. Any chance you can test with the bottom stator moved to 5.30 or 5 o'clock? (see my last post).

shakman