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this pyramid should produce electricity. (thomas trawoger's pyramid explaned.)

Started by nitinnun, July 16, 2008, 04:57:47 AM

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nitinnun

the base is clockwise.

the energy in the peak spins clockwise. so a counter-clockwise peak-antennae, would be good at storing it.


any gauge of wire, is fine.


use a 1000 uF capacitor. or just make one using copper foil, aluminum foil, and trash bag.

4Tesla


nitinnun

behold.
the easiest to build, yet high quality pyramid peak to be found in the free world.


the 4 slabs of thin copper foil that i made it from, are each 13 inches long by 8 inches wide.

i folded each slab, over a metal triangle. a triangle that was 52 degree's at the base, and 76 degree's at the peak.

then i hole punched 16 places, and zip tied the 4 triangles together.


odds are that the side flaps will increase the energy effect. rather than decrease it.

professor

Hi
I feel that shanti has a valid point.
I do not wish to appear critical as I have an open mind on this subject, but as facinating as it seems to be ,it has to be proven beyond the shadow of a doubt.
Try this same electrical setup and stick it into a square box.If it still gives off Energy
then maybe it really has nothing to do with the shape but rather with the galvanic actions of two dissimilar Metals.
I do not wish to step on someones feet but those that are  convinced could convince those with doubts and and at the same time prove their Concept.
Its easy enough to do for someone that already has a working setup. Just be honest.
By the way you can use Printed Circuit Board Material,you can get that copper clad on one or both sides on a Fibreglass Base,  and you can solder the Joints unless solder interferes with the process
Thanks for letting me comment. I like to believe that it is the shape but...  there is the other issue ......
professor


Quote from: Shanti on July 21, 2008, 01:56:11 PM
Well your pyramid reminds me exactly of a device I once made. It delivers energy from the "air":

I came upon this when I discussed with someone, why the Thestatika does have grilles on the wheels.
I then said, that it can't be an influence machine, for in an influence machine you actually try as much as possible to prevent corona discharge. But a grille has many edges and therefore the corona discharges would be drastical.
Then it made click. They want to have the corona discharge! This is the principle how the wheels work. If you have a charged plate (but isolated) or even better an electret. If you now place something metal on top with sharp edges (grille), the potential at the edges will be much higher, and therefore you will have there a corona discharge. But then, you have less charges in the grille electrode, than needed to compensate the electret, and therefore a current will flow in the grille to equalize this. But (un)fortunately this current will also become lost in a corona discharge.
I then made a little prototype to see, if the theory works, and it does. With a grille of about half the size of a hand I could lit up a lamp every few seconds. 
Sure this works only if the air is moving, otherwise the air around the grille gets charged up, and it will work much less efficient. (This is why the wheels on the Thestatika have to turn). I made it stationary, and therefore have to blow a bit air at it every now and then.

I think this pyramid thing is exactly the same!
The top is ideal for a corona discharge, for the electric potential at the top will be much higher than anywhere else in the top piece of metal. And due to the shape of the pyramid a steady flow along the sides of the pyramid from bottom to top will very likely develop, which is needed for continuous operation.
The other metal part at the bottom is needed to "charge" the air prior in the other direction. Well it's not really needed (my device uses the electret for that), but it surely will increase the efficiency the better, the more negative the bottom metal is.
And there I think it's different than you mentioned. I think, you should take a metal which is very negative on the bottom, but very positive on the top, so that you have a maximum difference.
But I think one should take the redox potential of the metals for this (these say actually which metals like electrons more or less, this is how batteries work). So I don't think it has anything to do with diamagnetics, etc. At least not, if it works like my device.
If it works like that, then a gold top and a lithium bottom would be the best you can do. For gold is the most positive metal (+1.69V) and lithium (-3.05 ) the most negative one. For the actual metals you can get cheaply, certainly copper (+0.52V )aluminium (-1.66V) is quite a good choice.
So from the basic principle this is kind like an air battery, but the atmosphere will always try to balance the charges, and therefrom comes the energy. (It's actually kinetic energy from the air, that gets translated into electrical energy)

But as I calculated and also saw from my prototype, you can't get much energy like that. Otherwise you would need huge installations! I think a little Fan motor for the size of pyramid you suggest would just be about in that range that I think is realistic to drive.
This was actually the reason why I didn't spent more time in this direction. Nice FE fro demonstrations purposes, but not really usable in respect to the amount of energy you can get.
BTW: I think this is only used in the Thestatika to generate some HV, but in a way, which doesn't need energy. Then they have a second OU principle in the chars which somehow generates hugh amounts of energy from this HV. I think it's something similar to the ed gray tube...

nitinnun

doubt based thinking, steals from you.
it does not reward you in any way. it only takes away what you "could" have.

doubt based thinking, will not benefit a persons research efforts.
anymore than a brick tied around their leg, will help them to swim better.


even if i am not able to get my design to produce anything, than my design and my explanation of its physics, are further to the truth than anything before.

but doubt based thinking, does not allow you to see the improvement.
it only shows you the way to failure. not to success.