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Overunity Machines Forum



Selfrunning Waterpump-generator device runs 60 Watts lamp...

Started by hartiberlin, July 16, 2008, 03:09:31 PM

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aether22

James, did you change something seemingly inconsequential?

Perhaps you changed the layout of the external circuit relative to the generator?

Clearly the water part is going to be under unity, except for the possibility of a jerking flywheel effect which has been implicated in OU before, could too many paddles have smoothed it out too much?

Please don't overlook the correlation of energy being generated in the external circuit.
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

Pirate88179

"You should continue to make fun with the 'ole Lawrence... That's the thing you do best." (Posted on: August 24, 2008, 05:04:41 PM
Posted by: spinner)

@spinner:

Since you obviously don't know me at all, how could you possibly think that you would have any idea what it is that I might do best?

In an attempt to be fair, I checked out a selection of your latest posts on record on this forum and, as I guessed, 99% were sad attempts to demean someone's efforts, or tear down someone's theory.  I am wondering what happened to you in your childhood that makes you feel you have to belittle someone else to make you look better to yourself?  You "claim" to be an EE yet on the Stiffler topic, you have revealed just how little you really know about electricity in general.  You blasted Dr. Stiffler and attempted to ridicule his work such to the point that he does not post there anymore.  Nice job.  Now I see you are attempting to do the same thing over here.

So, let's see your OU devices then?  At least let us see the videos and photos of your OU device experiments?  Oh, you don't have any?  OK, let's see your energy experiments efforts.  None of those either?  I figured that since you are such an expert at criticizing others work on here that surely you must have many working devices.  I guess all of your time is spent attempting to blast others so you don't have any time left for doing any real work yourself.  It is a shame really.  You might actually be a smart guy.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

scotty1

Hi all.
Firstly...the inventor told us "why would I waste time to build a prototype,  make a video, hire a Patent Attorney"
If he did that, then he is not going to tell anything here....duh.
Secondly...as a neutral observer, I agree that plenty of time has been given for information to be provided on all aspects of the machine.
As nothing has been provided, there is no choice other than to be skeptical at least.
I think that if you come here with a machine, people have the right to ask for schematics and details and theoretical explanations.
The mention of Patent attorney's defeats the purpose of coming here...none of us should be subjected to endless tid bits of useless information from inventors not willing to openly disclose.
Just what I think.
Scotty...United Pumps Australia
http://www.unitedpumps.com.au/

Pirate88179

Quote from: scotty1 on August 25, 2008, 03:21:18 AM
Hi all.
Firstly...the inventor told us "why would I waste time to build a prototype,  make a video, hire a Patent Attorney"
If he did that, then he is not going to tell anything here....duh.
Secondly...as a neutral observer, I agree that plenty of time has been given for information to be provided on all aspects of the machine.
As nothing has been provided, there is no choice other than to be skeptical at least.
I think that if you come here with a machine, people have the right to ask for schematics and details and theoretical explanations.
The mention of Patent attorney's defeats the purpose of coming here...none of us should be subjected to endless tid bits of useless information from inventors not willing to openly disclose.
Just what I think.
Scotty...United Pumps Australia
http://www.unitedpumps.com.au/

@ scotty1:

I agree.  When you file for a patent and it turns out there has been public disclosure of your idea, your patent will be null and void.  I personally believe that the (at least my understanding) principle of open source is just that, open, and in direct conflict with the patent system.

I never blame anyone for being skeptical.  I am very much so about most things.  I have been through countless magnetic motor topics here with videos on youtube that turned out to be faked.  During these little fiascoes, while being skeptical and having many doubts, I attempted to remain civil toward the "inventor" and asked questions about the device and designs.  I even attempted replication myself just to prove that it would not, and could not work. I always tried not to accuse the man himself of outright fraud and deception before the facts were in, even though this turned out to be the case in each instance.

I have always admired your work and research on Ed Leedskelnin.  I have photos of Coral Castle my Dad took on his visit there and have showed them to many folks who then tell me there was no way one guy could have done all of that.  Well, I believe he did even though common sense should tell us it was impossible.

As far as this topic goes, I guess I am trying to keep a somewhat open mind and hope that possibly James did find a special symbiosis when combining existing devices that somehow do what they should not. 

When I think of all of the "impossible" devices my father worked on (along with many, many other folks) during his time at Bell Labs, including the transistor, laser, solar cells, wave guides for microwaves, cell phone technology, etc. I remember how many folks said none of those devices could ever be made to work.  Well, they do and some supposedly bright physicists had to rethink what they thought they knew about the world.

In summation, I think we should all be skeptical and challenge new ideas and devices and ask for reasonable explanations but not attack the man (or woman) and call them liars and frauds right out of the box as some have done here, and, as it turns out, just about everywhere else they post.  This is what I do not agree with.

Thanks

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

JDHardy54

Spinner,

I understand about other people who have posted in the past and nothing has come out of it.  Proof will come very soon.  Like I have said earlier in my emails, the generator is being worked on at the shop.  Things do take longer than expected.  I'm not trying to make excuses - that is just the way life is.  The generator has only been in the shop a week.  We can only do work on it after work or weekends.  About my partner answering questions on this website, or to any website - he does not believe in these kind of websites.  He doesn't believe he has to prove himself to anybody.  In my case, I am different.  I'm sure you will find something to criticize on this message because that is what you do best.  So please - just back off.  A lot of other people feel the same way.  I get a lot of personal emails from this website and others and I talk to these people through my personal website because of people like you. So that's it. As I have stated many times before -  when the generator is finished, I will be making the video right away and I will post it on this website.  If anyone has positive feedback, you can email me personally and I will answer any questions.  Thank you.

James