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Hydrogen Only Electrolysis

Started by goldenequity, July 16, 2008, 05:20:45 PM

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goldenequity

QuoteElectrolyzing salt water generates deadly chlorine gas.
True. You CAN generate Cl2 from the anode.
However it's not quite that cut and dried.
It has to do with creating a redox environment in solution.... a condition created chemically called "overvoltage".

When there is a dilute solution of salt water electrolyte, you are only making Hydrogen and Oxygen.
When you begin to saturate the solution with an overabundance of Chloride ions, you create overvoltage chemically,
and the anode now reacts with the Chloride ion (cat-ion) instead of the Oxygen.  You get chlorine gas.... and hydrogen gas
of course off the cathode.
Its the same with baking soda.... too much and you produce CO2.
Here's the deal.
If he is "inhibiting" the anode (enough) to prevent it's interaction with Oxygen....then it would fail to interact with a Chloride ion as well.
So, no chlorine gas.
The theoretical question I pose is:
How could he do that? :o

goldenequity

Quote from: mostrander on July 18, 2008, 10:53:04 AM
Come on guys why are we even discussing this video, read some of his replys to the comments of the video. IMO he is just a bumpkin trying to sell cheap crap on ebay.

Whether or not he's a bumpkin or trying to get rich ..... I don't really care..... if fact, it kinda makes it more intriguing for me.
He could have included all kinds of meaningless crap in his setup to confuse people if he was trying to deceive or be cunning or clever.  :)

vdubdipr

yeah i doubt this guy is doing what he says, wouldnt their wouldnt there be more people doing it?
"quantum" and hh come on....
thats just what i think...

vdubdipr

MY QUANTUM GENERATOR turns water into tasty grilled chicken sandwiches, but i wont let you see......
thats just what i think...

goldenequity

I'm going to theorize a little....
If, by demonstration, he IS producing just HH with electrolysis, (and not chemical redox)
we logically have to deduce that the cathode is busy producing HH while the anode is being inhibited / prevented from producing O.

I think he stumbled onto something in trying different metal electrodes and electrolytes
to see what would happen and observing the effect.

Take for example,
In the Ravi/Lawton/Meyers design..... it became an observed phenomenon that a white "coating" would develop on the anode side of the stainless steel tube design.  It was determined that this was beneficial so people started experimenting to enhance and expedite the effect and it then became common to "condition" the tubes for better production.  Some questions should be asked.

Why / How did this "dielectric" , non-conductive, coating enhance production?
Production of what?  Were you still producing the same ratio of O to H?
What if you used "other" metals for the anode? What kind of coating would that create?
Are you still ionizing (charging) the water with the same ratio of ionization (+) (-) ?
What if an accumulated resident (+) charge of the water itself starts to replace a "coated" anode?
Is the chloride ion even necessary? If so, what "coating" is it creating? On what metal?
Could a normally "sacrificing" metal become coated so as to prevent/inhibit its decay?