Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

[Tacmatricx]

Hi Dave,

My power supply is only good for about 150mW not far from H2+Air fuel cell.

The voltage is now at 0.620V and rising slowly. Production is still really good and the cell remains so cloudy that you can barely make out the rods in the middle in the top 3/4 of the cell.

I am keeping a running log on this cell and as I'm using lab gear I have no gas leaks or fluid spills yet...

Chris

[Tacmatricx]

Hi Dave,

Have you tried increasing your zinc surface area to produce more gas?

I noticed in all your setups that you are focusing on the tungsten alone, ever try one with more zinc surface area? I only say this because when I turn my cell on... and I have a much higher zinc surface area than tungsten... my tiny tungsten rod erupts with gas and the entire cell is totally cloudy. Then the zinc spiral gets a layer of O2 bubbles and the production of H2 decreases to the point where I can now see the rods. I am thinking that the O2 bubbles are reducing the zinc surface area and slowing down the reaction?

Just my 2 cents.

Chris

[ResinRat2]

Hi Chris,

You might be right about increasing the zinc surface area. That is possible, or perhaps  you maxed out your hydrogen production. Increase the number of tungsten/carbide rods and see how the hydrogen output increases. If it doesn't then maybe what you are saying is right. Look carefully at the tungsten electrode and look for zinc plating. If there is none then throw in a few dozen tungsten electrodes and see if the output goes higher. Leave only one tungsten for the regeneration, but jack up the number of tungsten for hydrogen production. See how that increases the hydrogen output.

I don't have a reactor right now, it is being worked on for me, but as soon as I get one I will do this with the fuel cell. What is nice is that the fuel cell has a load following capability. I was afraid to do your type of setup because of the battery heating that I saw during the previous experiment similar to the one you are doing. I didn't want to damage my fuel cell. Now I know this is possible and can have a good possibility of success.

This is cool. I am really excited by your results Chris. This may turn out to be the final piece of the puzzle to make this system work continuously without switching zinc rods for regeneration. I am very, very glad you tried this angle. That is why I wanted help with this project. Someone to bounce ideas off of and share results with. See what has happened in just a short time.

[ResinRat2]

Hi Chris,

I took a snapshot of the page in my notebook when I did the similar setup. Good for a laugh, you can see my comments, "This is how to balance the reaction electrically w/ the fuel cell" and  "Causes battery to heat up" and "No good!"

I guess I was wrong LOL!!

Thanks again for doing what you are doing.

[Tacmatricx]

Aaaah... Now I see why your battery was heating up... That setup is very similar to mine but you have both tungsten rods wired for production and then added a battery to the apparatus.

If you look closely you have short circuited the battery by directly attaching it in that way... current flows from the battery, up the zinc rod and then directly back into the battery again. All without passing through the electrolyte. We used to do this as kids in school with a quarter and a nine volt battery, we would put the quarter on the battery (shorting the terminals) and secure it with a rubber band and then throw it to a good friend to catch it... much worse than hot potato!!! Both the battery and the quarter were blistering hot!

If you disconnect the wire between the zinc rod and the regeneration tungsten electrode... you have what I have.

Glad to see you going back into your notes I think we inspire each other! 2007!!! Didn't realize you have been at it for this long! The end is near my friend 

That voltage you gave me is still working well... No precipitate of any kind and the zinc is once again furry  No buildup on the regen electrode either... will keep a close eye on this.

Cheers,

Chris