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Overunity Machines Forum



Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

Started by hartiberlin, October 04, 2005, 06:54:25 PM

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pese

Hi RR2

No problem with Lead ( Blei ).
There is this to sheet metals 0,5mm 1mm enz for roof and masonry works.
Thus radiation screens.
Toxid? Dukannst it process. With shears or measurer cut. And only IE of hands wash before you bread from the hand to eat would like.
There are give no problems. Only swallow direct touching and into the body.
(That was in former times also the problem with lead-coated gasoline)

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ResinRat2

Hi Everyone,

I was doing a great deal of experimenting yesterday with the idea of using two cells with Linnard Patent Experiment #13. I?ve come to the conclusion we need a battery power source to balance the reactions electrically. There must be a activation energy difference in the hydrogen and oxygen generation reactions large enough that it cannot be overcome chemically or even with a larger electrode. I tried increasing the area of both. The only reaction that I could encourage to go faster is the hydrogen generation. The oxygen just can?t quite get out fast enough to keep pace so the zinc regeneration lags.

My goals were to find a circuit that would generate hydrogen in one cell and oxygen in the other at the same time. Then the connections on the battery would be reversed and the hydrogen would form in the opposite cell and the oxygen in the other. The drawing of that circuit is the BatterySetup image below.


When the connections are made as shown, gas pours off of the Tungsten electrode (hydrogen) in Cell A and the Zinc electrode (oxygen) in Cell B. This also regenerates the zinc on the electrode. The reaction is very vigorous for about 15 to 30 seconds, then begins to slow. When the battery is reversed the same thing happens but the hydrogen and oxygen are produced in the other cells.

In other words, if you switch the battery connections back and forth, you can have a continuous flow of HHO gases. The colloids could be adjusted if the mixture of gasses is not correct, but this is the circuit I was looking for. More experimenting needs to be done but the advantages of this system is that zinc is constantly being regenerated a little at a time, both gasses are coming off constantly and the zinc electrodes are constantly being regenerated. So a relay switch of some type would switch the battery connections back and forth every 15-30 seconds.

This is FANTASTIC! Hook this up with a fuel cell above it and you could charge the battery that would power the relay and the gas generation. This is your overunity device!!

That?s not all, I also wanted a connection that would generate gas off both Tungsten (hydrogen) electrodes and then switch the battery connections and it would then generate gas off both zinc (oxygen and zinc regeneration) electrodes. The drawing of that circuit is Batterysetup_2Linnard below.

This circuit could be used to balance the gasses produced or boost zinc regeneration. If either needed a boost, then this would be used. If used as shown; gas pours off of both Tungsten electrodes (hydrogen generation). When the battery is switched, the gas pours off of both zinc electrodes (oxygen and zinc regeneration).

Do you see what this means. With these two circuits you have complete control of the mixture of gas generated, and you also have complete control of the anode regeneration. With a fuel cell above this you can produce electricity to power and control every aspect of the cell. Using Linnard?s process the reactions are not exothermic. So no heat is generated.

More needs to be worked out, but I can see the light on this one. This can be a unit in an electrically powered car that runs on WATER! Theoretically nothing would ever have to be added (except water) since all the components are regenerated. The colloids are regenerated too within the reaction. This does need some long term testing though. I am trying to set up a relay that switches automatically so I don't have to sit there and flick the switch every 15-30 seconds or so.

LOOK EVERYONE!!! This is your overunity device. Let's all start building!!!


Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

Dingus Mungus

Quite exciting new discovery resin rat, this new cell configuration shows more potential then any other device I've seen since the SM TPU. Congrats on your continuing success with these experiments. I hope the other members will soon wake up to the importance of this project. Are the redundant cells using your balanced recipe?

Thanks for keeping us updated on your progress,
~Dingus

ResinRat2

Hi mramos and Dingus,

Sorry, but I've been gone all day and just got on now.

Dingus, the formula I used was the original formula used in the patent. 10 g of NaOH, 10ml of 20ppm Mg, 20ml of 20ppm Ag, diluted to a total volume of 100ml with DI water. The electrodes were the tungsten electrode, and the galvanized nail. All the testing I did was with fresh nails. I made up a total of 400ml of the formula and split it 200ml each in two containers. The nails had no flaws exposing the metal underneath. It is amazing to watch them regenerate so vigorously with this wiring scheme.

mramos, I have no idea at this point what the make-up of the total gasses that are being given off by the two cells. Without a headspace GC I have no way to tell at this time. I just know that Hydrogen comes off the tungsten electrode and Oxygen comes off the zinc electrode. My experiment just wanted to see if I could achieve this circuit setup. I don't know if it would run or damage an engine or not. Also, thank you very much, if you could send me a schematic of some way to switch the battery connections back and forth I would appreciate it. I am no engineer, everything I learned here in the last few days was by trial and error. The wiring that worked was arrived at after trying just about every combination I could think of. Please place the schematic on this forum for all to see. I want all the information we learn and have to be available to everyone on the planet!!!!

If you read my previous post you will see that I believe that what Dingus and I have been discussing is using a fuel cell above the electrolysis unit to power the system. So, in this way, it is a self-powering unit. The hydrogen and oxygen being given off so vigorously should have more than enough power to drive this system. I was using a 1.5 volt AA battery on mine for half a day, and it still has power to keep doing the gas generation. Obviously the system does not need much power to run.

I was just testing the unit a few hours ago. It is working perfectly, it just gets tedious changing the connections every 15-30 seconds.

That is all I have right now. I am anxious to try it on a long term test. Like for a few weeks, using your idea, dingus, to use a float that would keep the solution level constant. I want to know the best combination of switching that is needed to maintain the cell balance. This is going to take many people to try and duplicate and improve.

Please, I need anyone else to help and duplicate this work. We need ideas flowing and development happening. I am only one very busy Chemist. I don't have a lot of time to spend on this. Lucky for me this was a holiday weekend and I've been up late nights; but my wife has not been happy with me lately. She just doesn't understand that unlimited energy for the world is more important than cleaning out the garage. (lol) WOMEN!!! Got to love them!!
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

Dingus Mungus

:D LOL!

I hope to start helping out with more than ideas and perspectives very soon (this week) and I apologize for taking so long to get started over here. Hopefully by the end of the year I can work on a prototype of the self contained redundant cell system based on your experiments and mramos's possible drive circuit designs. I don't think anyone yet understands how important this may be. Hydrogen on demand for vehicles, home power generators, no more recharging of portable devices; all from a vacuum sealed self contained unit with no moving parts. Maybe I'm being obscenely optimistic, but that kind of optimism is rare coming from me.

Congrats again to Resin, your experiments are greatly helping to solidify a conclusive test that may prove once and for all overunity is possible.

Thanks to all,
~Dingus