Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

[ResinRat2]

Hi Dingus,

I've been gone all day and just got home a few minutes ago. I looked at your redesign of the unit and now I see what was bothering me. You have the water recycled back into the zinc side of the cell. This will cause a concentration imbalance on that side of the unit as the NaOH/Mg/Ag solution becomes less concentrated. This will occur as the water is recycled.

I like the idea of allowing the water to recycle back into the "V" tube at the bottom of the unit. This will allow the water to collect in that area and the solution from both the Tungsten and Zinc sides to flow into that area in equal amounts. Maybe the "V" needs to be just straight across so the mixing will be equal and the water won't collect without mixing into both sides of the unit. I think I explained it correctly. If you look back at your original reactor drawings you will see what I mean. You have the water recycling back into the area I think would be better.

Let me know if you don't quite understand what I am trying to say; but this is what I first saw as a problem. I am tired right now so I am going to crash out. I'm leaving early tommorrow and may not be back for a day or two. (Maybe). I'll be where I probably won't have the opportunity to get internet access. So have some patience with me and I will get back to you as soon as I can.

I really, really appreciate your effort. Make a list of parts and prices and send me a personal note if you want, or post it here. I want to get this project rolling. I really believe it can be made overunity.

Thanks again,

Dave

P.S. That is a nice drawing. What graphics program are you using. It's great.

[Dingus Mungus]

I have redesigned the reactor to fit your needs, but unfortunately I don't think this will solve the problem you've metioned. When the warm water is added to the center holding chamber the anode side of the reator (since unpressurized) will balance thus pulling water from the holding chamber to the zinc side of the reactor. To really avoid this problem you would need to cycle the electrolyte which would only be (OU) possible on large reactors.

Either way I don't think it will be that big of a problem as long as the water is sufficiently saturated with NaOH. Then I think the warm fresh water will spontaniously take in the soluable (-OH) ions. Altho maximum solubility is 111 g of NaOH / 100 ml H2O @ (20?C), so you may be right... Wow I can't even imagine that mixture, its got to be a thick nasty corrosive paste.

Anywho... Heres the new layout. Get back to me with any thoughts you may have for further improvements. Also I'm working on getting a new 3-d program so I can further bring the digital representations to life.

Be safe, and my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family,
~Dingus

[ResinRat2]

Hi Chris,

I appreciate your thoughtful concerns and prayers for our family. It's just a difficult time right now, but we will get through it no matter what happens. I will be leaving as soon as I post this reply and I'll get back to you when I get a chance.

Now that design looks good. Beautifully done, good job!

Give me your thoughts. Do you think where the water is added back in, instead of a type of "u" shape, maybe it should be straight across. If it comes back in warm it would mix simply by warm/cold water movement. I also don't think it would be a problem either way though, you are right. There is such a large volume of gas from a small amount of water that I don't think it would make much difference.

OK! Looks good! Send me a parts/price list for what you need when you get a chance. I appreciate your effort on this. I'll be back in touch.

Thanks again Chris,

Dave

[Dingus Mungus]

No rush resin, we got plenty of time...

I will have to special order the SS316 components, but I've already send out some price requests. The only thing we need order besides the SS316 is the clear components. So we'll each need a 10' section of clear PCV 1" and 3 1" 'T' connectors, but the rest (unless you want it clear) can be obtained at any home depot or lowes.

~Dingus

[Dingus Mungus]

Give me your thoughts. Do you think where the water is added back in, instead of a type of "u" shape, maybe it should be straight across. If it comes back in warm it would mix simply by warm/cold water movement. I also don't think it would be a problem either way though, you are right. There is such a large volume of gas from a small amount of water that I don't think it would make much difference.

Sorry I forgot to address this...

The 'U' shape is to ensure gas purity and containment. If the bridge was straight gasses could escape to the center chamber, and if the cell was ever run dry oxygen would be able to reach the fuel cell. In the current design water will always fill the 'u' so both of these engineering problems are avoided.

I hope this explains the need for this aspect of the deisgn.

~Dingus