Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

[ResinRat2]

Hi Chris,

I did more experimenting today and I found a variation on my original circuit that can be used in this single cell configuration. This means that I should be able to use the fuel cell to boost hydrogen/oxygen generation and zinc regeneration at the same time. This gives me a very interesting direction of research once the four- electrode reactor arrives.

Hopefully it has the possibility of over-unity.

The forward hydrogen generation reaction is spontaneous and endothermic, this allows it to "drive" the energy forward using a fuel cell. The more hydrogen, the more electricity is produced. Cycling this back should boost the hydrogen/oxygen production even more. Also, using the four electrode hydrogen reactor should allow me to have a continuous hydrogen and power output even when a zinc electrode is regenerating.

The only way to know if this will work is with some benchwork.

I am looking forward to this line of experimentation. Should be very interesting indeed.

[ResinRat2]

Here's a nice fuel cell to try.

http://www.fuelcellstore.com/cgi-bin/fuelweb/view=Item/cat=24/product=43

Price is a bit steep,    but it uses hydrogen/air and gives a decent enough output to give it overunity capability. This technology is a bit expensive.

I'll keep looking.

[Dingus Mungus]

Well it will take some time till they're affordable... Altho I may look in to building a fuel cell stack or two in a few months. I've heard there are los of manuals out there for the process, and the composition of the cell seems simple enough. http://e1ps.tripod.com/fuelcellfuture/id6.html I bet your the guy to find the Nafion 112 flouropolymer we'll need. LOL! I'll be searching for the next few months for the cheapest source of standard components. I really hope the only costly component is the platinum.

Speaking of which...
For anyone interested, here are my best sources for hydrogen cell components so far.

Zinc rods:
http://www.rotometals.com/zinc_rods_plates_disc.htm

Tungsten Carbide rods:
http://www.extramet.net/check_stock.html
I would suggest the "RR 2" model rods, but no less then 10 WC rods per 3/8" zinc rod. This is necessary to assure the cathodes surface area is equal or greater than the surface area of the anode. Each RR2 rod costs $3.80 so let me know if you found/find cheaper prices on WC.

NaOH pellets: (This is funny)
http://search.ebay.com/NaOH

50PPM Ag/Mg colloids:
http://www.silvermountainminerals.com/magnesium.html
http://www.silvermountainminerals.com/silver.html
Just remember to adjust your mixure to allow for 20ppm...
10ml @ 20ppm = 4ml @ 50ppm

Enjoy!
~Dingus

[ResinRat2]

Hi Chris,

I called for information about the fuel cell:

http://www.fuelcellstore.com/cgi-bin/fuelweb/view=Item/cat=24/product=43

I talked for a while with the tech representative, he explained a few things to me since I had no experience with fuel cells.

It seems the power ratings are nominal ratings and the cell wattage varies over a period of time depending on temperature of the cell and load on the cell. This particular cell has a maximum hydrogen flow rate that it can handle at 36ml/min. I looked back and saw my little fancy-glass reactor put out over 13ml/min. So this is easily over a third of the maximum for this cell.

That particular fuel cell also potentially can put out over 2 amps at max flow. I've been doing all my regeneration experiments with a AA battery that puts out about a half-amp. Just looking at the numbers this should easily be overunity, with excess voltage to capture. So I just wanted to post this information for everyone to see.

The link for the fuel cell above shows a graph with power, amp, and voltage potentials. Just look over the graph and you can see this cell has the potential to do the job. So I will go ahead and purchase this unit. Once the clear PVC reactor arrives I will use this for experimentation. All I will need to do is load up the PVC reactor with plenty of Tungsten/Carbide rods to boost the hydrogen output. The feedback should easily regenerate the zinc. I just need some way to control, store or use the excess power.

This is where someone who knows a little bit about electronics can help me. I need a way to wire the power put out by the fuel cell so that just enough is sent back to regenerate the zinc. The rest of the power needs to be stored or used in some way. This will be the overunity energy, drawn from ambient air temperature.

I need suggestions on how to do this. I am ignorant on electronics, but this should be simple enough to design for someone with basic knowledge of electric circuits.

Thanks for your interest.

[ResinRat2]

Hi Everyone,

Nothing has been posted here for over 10 days so I just want to give a quick note on our status.

Dingus Mungus is in the process of finishing the assembly of the hydrogen generator and I am waiting for the more powerful fuel cell to arrive. For me it will be another two or three weeks since it's on backorder. In the meantime I have been doing experiments on the best way to wire the power output once the entire unit is assembled. Mramos has been very helpful in this area and has given me ideas on how to set this up. Unfortunately, no definitive design can be chosen until actual experiments are performed, this won't happen until all the pieces of the puzzle (reactor) are in place.

So have patience everyone. This thread is NOT dead, just in the process of being investigated.

Thanks for your interest.