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Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

Started by hartiberlin, October 04, 2005, 06:54:25 PM

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ResinRat2

So I've watched it for a bit. There is gas coming off both electrodes, but the aluminum one is staying grey below the liquid level. So is this Oxygen coming off the aluminum/zinc electrode?

If it is I think I am really going to pass out.

Not only that, but the zinc coating around the aluminum electrode is getting thicker and thicker. It is regenerating on its own.

I have a great deal of experimenting to do everyone. My mind is racing at this moment. I can't believe what I am seeing.

Thank you Linnard, Thank you thank you ty ty ty ty ty!!!!!etc,,,,,,

Don't mind me I am a bit excited.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.


ResinRat2

OK everyone, I need to calm down. I haven't been very professional over the last few posts. Sorry, I guess that was my EUREKA.

I am going to take a step back and think about this. What happens when the zinc stops replating? Will the hydrogen production then stop? Is it really oxygen coming off the aluminum/zinc electrode or is it hydrogen sneaking through the zinc off the aluminum?

There are many more questions now generated by this development. I need time to think about this and what the next steps will be for experiments.

This is amazing though. The loop is not closed until it is closed; and right now I have no proof at all that it is closed. Just a hope and a dream right now. It needs to be studied and proved. This will take a little time.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

ResinRat2

Hi All,

This morning the tungsten electrode was still giving off gas as usual, but the aluminum electrodes were wrapped with a blob of grey (zinc?) and it too was giving off gas. This should be hydrogen off the tungsten, and oxygen off the aluminum/(zinc?); but I will need to confirm this before I say for sure.

This is very interesting. I wonder if the (zinc?) is being consumed by the hydrogen generation, and then immediately being replated on the aluminum? That would be great because that would mean the reaction would keep going as long as there is water added. If the hydrogen went directly to a fuel cell then the water could be recycled.

I wish I had a pH meter to see how the NaOH is fairing.

Well it looks like, at this point, that all the energy that will be produced by a fuel cell can go directly to a load. No circuits and no batteries (except if we want to charge them).

I'll keep you posted on further developments and observations.

Thank you for your interest.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

ResinRat2

I am not sure if the grey blob is zinc or some zinc compound. When I see zinc replated using a battery it has a flake type appearance. This zinc has an almost rubbery type of consistancy and does not flake apart. Also, the bubbles coming off this grey blob do not seem to originate on the blobs surface, but seem to come from its "pores". Making me question if the gas is actually coming from the aluminum electrode that is encased in the zinc blob. Maybe the gas is pushing its way to the surface.? I am not sure.

I need to collect each gas seperately and test each with a flame.

Thanks for your interest.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.