Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

[stallman]

I'm a very interested in this experiment. I'm a high school student and I haven't had the opportunity to learn all the terms you guys use. I have made some electrolysis units and I had a few simple question for this one. These are noob question but I would really liked them answered.

1. Can this cell be ran forever with the original colloidal metals? (including the electrolytic solution) so the only thing you must replenish is pure h20

2. From the best test result how many leaders of gas does the system produce in 1 hour.

3. Has anyone ran a hydrogen fuel cell from the system? (I read this was an over unity machine)

4. I can't open the guys patent so could you tell me the supplies need to for this electrolysis process.

I would be very happy to have these question answered

STALLMAN

[payson]

My original thoughts on this project were that if you have to use a voltage to replenish the zinc then why not utilize circuitry from a Meyers cell so that when you pulse you get the dielectric breakdown.  After some more research I believe Meyers had time for the pulses to cool down too in which case the Griffin Cell would take over, which could potentially result in better performance overall.

I'm picking up my electronics kit from storage this weekend and just got a job so I will be able to afford parts and such and can't wait to join this exciting project

So ResinRat2, without the zinc the Griffin cell does not product a voltage?  Is that why you hooked up an AA?

[ResinRat2]

So ResinRat2, without the zinc the Griffin cell does not product a voltage?  Is that why you hooked up an AA?

Yes. The cell does not produce a voltage and the reaction is no longer spontaneous, but, the reason I did this was to get rid of the zinc regeneration. The cell can produce a good output of hydrogen and oxygen at low voltage. This can be run throught a fuel cell and produce electricity. The goal here is to see if the reaction, when powered by the low voltage, is still endothermic, thus potentially producing excess power if run through a fuel cell. I don't know if it is endothermic yet. I still need to take temperature readings to find out.

Thanks for your interest.

[ResinRat2]

OK, I need an interpretation of what I just saw.

I took the cell without zinc that had been running for 6 days on a AA battery and replaced the AA with two nine volt batteries wired in series to give off 18 volts. The gas was pouring off the two electrodes like crazy. I watched this for a good couple of minutes, then I felt the batteries. Both were extremely hot, so I shut it down. The liquid in the cell was cool but the batteries were HOT!

So what does this mean? I think, first of all, it means nobody should use this solution for anything higher than 3 volts; but what else could it mean? Ideas anyone?

[Dingus Mungus]

Hmmmmm...
I'll try this out with my PSU tomorrow.
I don't think it'll heat up, but if I power the cell with 30V
for an hour, we should be able to see any temp changes.

Well on second thought will 30V oxidize our colloids?
Any recomendations for tests? I can probably run 2-3 cells.

~Dingus