Solved! How Edwin's tube and Paul Baumanns machine works.

[DrStiffler]

@All

It would appear via communications private communication that the two theories, mine and aether22 are not that far apart, although we approach the application in a somewhat different way

It is strange how all of a sudden things all seem to come to the surface, Gray, Hiddink and now surfaces JL Naudin;

http://www.google.com/patents?q=10%2F472%2C714&btnG=Search+Patents

It appears that Naudin and Hiddink are close in design, what is different in my approach is I do not utilize charged plates.

This may be one of the few things that really go someplace, seems like nothing else is showing any promise.

[Sprocket]

Wow, is this the same Naudin of JLN fame?

Also, I thought patents that claimed overunity were automatically rejected!!!...

Abstract
An electric energy source is made by means of a plate capacitor in interposing a set of plasma tubes between the plates. The assembly is subjected to cycles for the charging of the capacitor. These cycles comprise the excitation and the de-excitation of the gas of the plasma tubes. It is shown that the device has an efficiency of more than one.

[aether22]

One and the same, at least everyone assumes so.

And it is only a patent application, though there are a number of patents that claim OU that get through.

I would also note that I believe this likely is not so different to the Vall?e Synergetic Generator, also tested by Naudin and various others, not all versions have a spark gap BTW, it seems the beta emission can occur from carbon in the right circumstances and then it seems this Beta radiation adds energy to a coil.

I am not quite sure how much of Stifflers current effect is the origonal radiant effect of Hiddink et al and how much is plucking energy from the aether, but it could be that like any good thing it works in multiple ways.

[eldarion]

...how much is plucking energy from the aether, but it could be that like any good thing it works in multiple ways.

Would you mind explaining to me how it could actually get energy from the aether?  A defined set of aether manipulation principles (as it sounds like you either have or have theorized extensively about) would be very helpful in our OU quest...

Thanks!

Eldarion

[aether22]

I intend to write a post on the subject of 'soft/cold' electrons that are required for this effect in the next few days, basically just a bunch of correlations that have struck me of late.

As to the aether it is something I have been researching for a very long time and I know a great deal about it, I am willing to share what I know but I am not sure to what extent much of it relates to this current technological direction, I don't believe most it is a prime part of Hiddink et al effect (beyond the basic creation of soft/radiant electrons) and I simply don't know enough about what Stiffler is currently doing to comment on it.

But if you will answer me this question correctly I will happily share,  'What will you do with the information I give you?'
If you will research correlations and verify what I say, or use the 'keys' I give you in experimental research then I will happily share, but if you will just ignore it because it wasn't what you wanted to hear then I have better uses of my time.


So at this moment we have:
Stifflers successful Xenon based device which is either similar to or inspired by correlations between:

JLN Patent
Imris Pavel
Joseph Hiddink
Edwin Gray
Paul Baumann (Testkica)

Possibly Tesla vacuum tube powered car, Morays high capacitance vacuum tube, Vall?e Synergetic Generator (A bit different but seems to use soft beta radiation, correlates to Ed's tube also).

Am I missing any?