Solved! How Edwin's tube and Paul Baumanns machine works.

[wings]

http://www.wbabin.net/science/tombe26.pdf

[DrStiffler]

Stiffler has done excellent work with this, but Ben so have you!
And Stiffler didn't begin this, I did (though if he hadn't done some damn good work it would still only be correlations and I suck so hard in the lab or at conveying my ideas it would be nowhere).

So you are more than free to post your circuit, I am saying this for selfish reasons of course, I want to try the circuit!

And to establish that this pretty well proves that my correlations and observations ARE valid and valuable, so maybe even before I get to give things a try you can.
For instance try running the current through a magnetic field (electro or permenant), and try it both ways.
I am encouraged that the carbon works as expected, and a DC electromagnet around carbon core would be ideal.

There is something else that I think will work and I think something you have said indicated you may have already found indications of it, we'll see.

BTW circuit diagrams of vid 3 and 4 would be appreciated.

@aether22
Interesting, where did "Stiffler" say it was his idea? Did it not all come from the 1800's - 1900's?

So................. Strange!

No problem at all, I have learned a valued lesson here.

[aether22]

@aether22
Interesting, where did "Stiffler" say it was his idea? Did it not all come from the 1800's - 1900's?

So................. Strange!

No problem at all, I have learned a valued lesson here.

Um, you didn't.
I was correcting the perception that Ben seemed to have in his posts/videos.
While I have no idea what Ben thought, from what he said I would have figured you had been working on this for months and this was effectively solely 'yours'.

But whatever, yes, it has all come from the work of others and that was my point, only that this is very much a public collaboration.

Not sure why things have to turn personal, I like and respect you, I like and respect Ben.
Seems that sometimes these damned soulless texts we send each other don't convey sufficient depth of meaning allowing things to be read in ways we didn't intend or even comprehend.

[aether22]

Now let's get back to science and leave the dramatic stuff to the daytime soaps?

We have important things to tackle.
I am trying to setup Ben's deal but the size of the cap has me confused, Ben says 5 microfarads where you sent me a diagram with an 8.9nf cap, Ben's is over 500 times the size.

Also I am not sure how it has been established that the extra energy is from the Fl tube, with the Xenons it's clear it's a different circuit but how do we know it's the same thing?

Very cool that the tube is bypassed in Ben's 3rd vid because it means that you can gen as much power as you want (or are able to) with probably an almost endless life from the tube, but Ben have you removed the tube to verify it was key to the effect? I will try that myself as soon as I can figure out how to do this without electrocuting myself.

I have all the gear but need to clear some nice nonconductive space with not too many conductive things around, but hey if Ben can find the space!

Can we be friends again and get back to science?

[MeltDown]

The reason Naudin's mhog generates heat is that the copper vessel is a one turn coil shorted out.

The electrons and subsequent free energy come from the H2 to H1 transmute and this process is well known and understood. The reason people fail at Gray tube replications is they do not fill the tube with H2 under a vacuum.

Some have argued that the H2 does not deplete and that is the reason that the H2 is not the source of energy. Rubbish - There is enough energy in a cubic mm of mass to run a large city for a day once converted into the atomic energy of the mass. Not everything that counts can be counted - Albert Einstein This is how all free energy machines that I am aware of operate.

Take for instance the Methernitha. On the tube on top you can clearly see a tube with a thin wall (the H2 vacuum tube that is pulsed with high voltage) and then wrapped around that is a loose coil to collect the BETA and then around that is a thicker glass tube to shield the BETA. I.e., it is a gray tube.

It all begins with a cavitation (the spark) which produces electron clusters which explode to produce electron cascade which is where the mass to energy conversion takes place. If you ever learned one thing about free energy machines, that was what you needed to know and that is not an overstatement.

Take any free energy device that has been tested. Find the cavitation and from there figure out what type of mass was converted into the atomic energy contained in the mass. In the case of a H-bomb, which is a free energy machine, it is obviously the hydrogen and a neutron source that is converted into atomic energy. And no, economic free energy machines don't violate thermodynamics any more than the h-bomb.

Cavitation can occur in any mass in any state and is one of the least understood and single most important aspect of an economic free energy machine.

Here is one more that everybody missed - the Tesla manifold. It is a manifold designed to produce cavitation. It had nothing to do with pumping liquid and had everything to do with his deathray. There was one located on each of the barrels of the H2 tubes that fired the beam.

I suspect the egg shaped center pieces were his magnetic eggs and they produced what some call Anarov Bohm effect which is just a polarized electromagnetic cavitation and the basis of many free energy machines. In fact, on the Methernitha, the horse shoe magnets are connected at the top and the legs are magnetized such that one is North and the other is South. This magnetically splits the electron stream and then the capacitor plates between the legs collect the spin curl wave that is produced.

Ron Stiffler might want to consider replacing his loop antenna with something along these lines and might see something more productive on the output.

Magical terms like Aether and radiant energy keep people from understanding the science that produces mass to energy conversion.