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FUEL VAPORIZATION, DOUBLES MILEAGE

Started by dirt diggler, July 21, 2008, 03:34:18 PM

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exxcomm0n

@ tsimonin

Very nice experimentation!

I left comments on the last vid of the series.

If you have the time and materials, do you think you might want to wrap copper tubing around the exhaust pipe that was the same diameter of the fume/HHO/air delivery tube for secondary heat excitement?

So far your experiments prove "the bigger the molecule, the better the flammability" and I was wondering if it would keep on growing with more heat and act as a secondary (minor) cooling for the engine.

Just some thoughts, and I'll try to try them out myself as well. ;)

Again, nice "proofs"!

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z.monkey

Quote from: petersone on August 02, 2008, 11:39:13 AM
Hi z.monkey
I would like to try your idea of ultrasonics on a ride on mower,however,I don't understand "plenum of the intake manifold pointed up at the base of the carburetor"in particular plenum, also the ultrasonic apparatus I would require.
I would be thankful for your advice on the above.
happy hunting
peter
Howdy Petersone,

Well, that example was in reference to a V8 motor with a big intake manifold where you have lots of space inside the main chamber of the manifold where the intake runners split off and go to each cylinder.  For a small engine you would have to couple the transducer to the pipe where the fuel mixture goes into the cylinder head.  I know on small Briggs and Straton engines there is a pipe which goes from the base of the carburetor to the intake side of the cylinder head.  This pipe would need to be modified to attach a fitting which would hold the ultrasonic transducer.  I am not sure if existing transducers are adequate for the task.  A regular pond fogger is a metal transducer and is sealed to keep the water out of it.  But I don't know how well it will holdup in a gasoline environment.  This will take some experimenting.  The idea behind the ultrasonics is to expose the fuel air mixture to high intensity sound at around 40 Kilohertz.  This sound energy increases the energy of the gasoline molecules and causes them to spread apart increasing the amount of air between each molecule.  This increases the efficiency of the burn generating more power with less gasoline.  It will probably require the jets in the carburetor to be changed to lean out the mixture.

I have a spare Briggs and Straton 5 horsepower engine and a pond fogger to try this with.  We need some measure of performance to test the results.  Does anyone know if there are small engine dynamometers?  Some place I could test the setup?  I guess I could come up with some test method.  Maybe use a Go-Cart as a test bed and measure its performance on a 1/8 mile drag strip.  Well I'll keep brainstorming...

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goldenequity

Tsimonin Moped 5 vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e79bBl0x5q4

Exciting stuff.
By pressurizing the hho output, then releasing into intake,
he demonstrates what lots of lpm hho flow could do for an engine's horsepower...
I guess regulating the hho output is a choice:
btw storing hho then regulating pressure to a demand/throttle or,
regulating hho output with amps/production on demand (safer!)

You're a brave man tsi  :o
Thanks for sharing and welcome to the thread!

TheOne

I used an old lawnmower on fuel vapor, worked great, its just you need the right air vapor ratio to make it work.

My cell phone dont have sound! so crappy video :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld6UlSVadXU

WilbyInebriated

here is a little more about the history of vaporizers as well as patent numbers: pogue, ogle, etc.
this document is over 12 years old...
apologies as this has been posted before. strange the the library of congress doesn't have these documents anymore?
pogue's worst case test results were 171mpg in 1936!!!

http://www.supremelaw.org/authors/wine/energdev.htm

@ all
nice work, keep at it.
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