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Overunity Machines Forum



New Newman Motor Replication

Started by Careica, July 22, 2008, 02:38:10 AM

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Careica

Quote from: onlov on August 02, 2008, 05:02:13 AM
Yes, my english is bad. But I see, you understand me perfectly!
Maybe much worse thing is, you are studying at university of Berlin, but still you talk nonsenses of OU. :(
Herr Hartmann, Ich bin auch deutch in die schule gelesen, aber ich habe beinahe alles vergessen.

My guestion about coil:

And if I use 200-250 Ohms coil will it work whit 12V L-A Battery? And what I understand that 9 V NiMH will not show "recharge" effect. I mean, if I start testing whit that 9V battery, his voltage would be let say 8,5V and then I run this motor for couple days, then measure voltages again, it will only drop, because it will not be able to take charge?

But will it still make OU-effect if I use 0,2mm wire and 200-250Ohms? I have countet, that in my bobin 1g = 3,6 meters. And 360 meters give me near 200Ohms, so it will be 100g of wire until I get near 200 Ohms, but that is small amount is it?

And what you think about that, if I use about 150g of wire for "motor coil" and rest of the wire I could wind too, but it could be like generator coil. What you think?

Onolov, why you dont build that motor? Is it so hard to you or what?

I can tell you why Newman motors are not powering our houses, because no one want to buy or investiment Newman machine, because people like you don't belive him. He has demostrates his machine many times, and no one want to buy it, so he are tired to demostrate it for dummies, who don't belive notin.

onormanns

100kb upload only. come on administration how the f.... am i going to be able to send any plans by this mouseshit size.
had an improvement plan for the newman motor. and now all my comment painstackingly written gone. ahhhhhssss.
well i want to encourage you guys but onlove has good reasons to pose critics, i too see quite a normal engine here, plasma sparks on communitator, oh well. but i indeed believe overunity is possible. now i feel there are alot of blind amateurs hoping to find the bulls eye by luck, while i would love to see some insight and sharp minds comming up. like fusing you entusiastic right brained beloved brothers mind with onloves clever leftside.
Onlove have you not come across any interesting projects, we wont find new discovery by locking backward by old norms, there is no physics to describe culon forces, high spin atoms, meiznerfields, mind, consciousness. but i must agree in this one, i cannot see it either - just a simple generator.
but my posetive input plans and file was too big. get some f... construction going guys forget you "potplants" and get some efficiency going.
but again imagination is more important than knowledge. though a balance is ideal. also it is not the way to peace, the peace is the way.
love and light

onlov

Quote from: hartiberlin on August 01, 2008, 08:50:25 PM
Still one example:

If you use a charge on the NiMH batteries for my upcoming scooter,
for instance I charge them up with
100 Watthours of energy and
normally the electroscooter will
only go 20 Miles with this energy charge on the batteries.

Then I will use the modified Newman motor
on the electroscooter and again I charge up the empty batteries
with 100 Watthours and then run the scooter with the modified
motor and I will get 150 Miles with the same driving habit and speed until the batteries are empty...

So that is, what I call  usefull overunity....

Maybe the batteries will even last for more miles.
We will see.

Stefan claims his motor is least 150/20 = 7,5 time more effective as coventional motor. If conventional motor efficiency is 0,9, it's means Stefans motor get least 6,75 = 675% time as input power. If Stefan connect generator to his motor. Generator efficiency is about 0,9. It means, he get over 6 (600%) time more energy as motor input. He own perpetual mobile machine, which get 6 time more output as input!
;D

So Stefan Hartmann is saving the world! Or he is the biggest crakpot on the World!
Meine Damen und Herren!
Is he the biggest iventor on the World or the biggest fool on the planet?    :-\

gyulasun

Quote from: onormanns on August 02, 2008, 09:00:47 AM
100kb upload only. come on administration how the f.... am i going to be able to send any plans by this mouseshit size.had an improvement plan for the newman motor. and now all my comment painstackingly written gone. ahhhhhssss.
......
love and light

Hi Onormanns,

The 100kB limit concerns attachments to posts/replies like we are in now,  and you may upload up to 5MB files at a time (and repeat it one by one) to this Forum here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=upload  and after upload you may find your files in the Download section and may inlude the link in your next post here for kind info to other members here, ok?  Thanks.


@Careica,   please take a look at a new member's excellent attempts on building a Newman motor here if you have not noticed it already: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5287.0.html and also a newbie here with questions: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2898.0.html 

My understanding on the coil you keep asking is that the more turns you make with the higher diameter of wire, it is the better.  Of course, more turns mean longer wire, hence higher copper resistance and the only 'cure' for reducing copper resistance is to use wire of higher diameter.  This involves higher rotary mass for the rotor, besides higher cost.
Quote from Stefan: If you want to save money and use less copper, use my idea with the 5 LC tanks in series.

And if you read the new member, Michelino experiment with this motor, it gets clear that the price for using smaller diameter of wire with many turns, you have to raise the supply voltage (because of the higher resistance of the coil).

Hope these are of some help. I do not know if you reach overunity with your present diameter wire that will give you "only" 200-250 Ohms resistance, who can foretell this? And do not bother in advance on the battery "recharge" effect, later with gaining more insight through experiments you will sure differentiate between a real charge and the "memory" effect...

rgds,  Gyula



Michelinho


Hi Stefan and all,

In my initial Newman Motor I used 2 coils 2500 turns each of awg 32 magnet wire (294 ohm total) and although it was best running under 18 volts (.025 ma) it could also run all day with a near depleted 9 volt battery without a recovery circuit.

It used 2 round speaker magnets mounted on a .25" steel shaft. They were well glued to prevent any fly off. We used the "no recovery circuit design" to tweak if for maximum rpm and we got it to close to 7,000 rpm but very low torque. I even contacted Jean Louis Naudin about it and his reply was: "J'ai visionn? la vid?o, mais je ne comprends pas bien la manip qui vous a permit de produire la rotation rapide du moteur ? 4000 RPM ?" (He didn't know why we could run it that fast).

***And we got it to run even faster with 2 simple tweaks: smallest possible contact (awg 32 size wire) and the addition of a contact enhancer "stabilant 22A".*** To late, I have told...  :) (A head scratcher for onlov)

If you want recovery, you must use a multi-segment commutator.

In my Version 2 of the Newman Motor, by just adding a 220vac 4uf cap across the coil and in parallel with the spark gap, the rotational speed of the motor doubles. When we have a big cap matched to the coil, the last Newman Motor built will use much less to run.

Take care,

Michel


***The picture is the scope trace of the motor running without hardware commutator as in the film I sent to JLN (he did not see this trace).***