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Is this circuit good?

Started by guruji, July 30, 2008, 04:15:06 PM

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guruji

HI Sandy thanks for your response.
How long does it take to charge a 12v battery with this pulse motor?Example I have a car battery showing 10v would this take long to be charged by this motor?
Does anyone have a time rate about charging of these motors?.
Thanks.

nul-points

Quote from: guruji on August 03, 2008, 10:29:28 AM
How long does it take to charge a 12v battery with this pulse motor?Example I have a car battery showing 10v would this take long to be charged by this motor?

well, this is going to be dependent on the Bemf of your particular setup - and the AmpHour rating of the 12V battery you're trying to charge

i guess this brings us back to your initial request re: measuring the Bemf of your rig - how long would the power provided by your measured Bemf take to supply at least the energy equivalent to the AH rating of the battery? once you've measured your average Bemf current you can do the math to find the time

Also, since presumably this design is supposed to have some overunity performance, is there any power gain achieved in the pulsed-recharging by the motor which means you supply less energy than a full recharge requires? someone with experience of the the Bedini SSG will have to help you out here

all the best
sandy

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guruji

Today I included a neon to the circuit but when disconnecting the charging battery the neon did not light up why is this?
MAybe I did not put the right neon?or there is not much bemf to light up?
Sorry for to many questions but I am new to electronics.
Thanks guys.

nul-points

Quote from: guruji on August 04, 2008, 02:24:14 PM
Today I included a neon to the circuit but when disconnecting the charging battery the neon did not light up why is this?
MAybe I did not put the right neon?or there is not much bemf to light up?

yes, it could be that the neon doesn't glow until a higher voltage - or that the peak Bemf voltage is not high enough to make the neon glow

as NerzhDishual said earlier, the neon is only there as a protection for the 2N3055 - in case the Bemf voltage ever gets too high (eg. possibly when battery disconnected, or if 1N4007 diode fails, etc)

it's like a seat-belt in a car/auto - you hope it won't be necessary - on any journey - but you always wear it just in case

have you tried replacing the charging battery with a capacitor yet?  the voltage across the capacitor (without any resistor) will show you the peak voltage of your Bemf

try an electrolytic capacitor, say 200uF 40V or near, connected same polarity as the battery to be charged - you could probably leave a meter connected to the capacitor leads while you run the motor (use, say,100V range first and adust if necessary)

all the best
sandy


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  http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc
"To do is to be" ---  Descartes;
"To be is to do"  ---  Jean Paul Sarte;
"Do be do be do" ---  F. Sinatra

NerzhDishual


@Guruji

Nul-Point (Dr Ringwood) is far best that me in all these kind of electronics matters (and in Bass playing, BTW) . He his, probably, also the future author of one very book about Capacitors, Condos, Heroic Fantasy, 'OU' and Romanticism!
(Private Joke    ;D ;D ;D

With this small SSG Bedini 'motor' made from  16 (=8*2) very weak ferrite magnets, and a old computer (double) disk 'fed' with a 7.2 volts bat, I was (and still are, I hope) able to (quickly) charge up a 1000uf cap at about 50-60 volts. This is not claimed to be OU!




May I suggest you to consult one of my previous posts about Bedini SSG tests:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4294.msg83376.html#msg83376

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