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HHO electrodes - stainless vs nickel vs platinum

Started by FosterVS, July 31, 2008, 08:23:37 PM

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ydeardorff

For instance some materials oon the periodic table "want to be noble" naturally. They naturally want to gain, or lose electrons making them more reactive. Such as carbon. by exploiting this, the reaction within the cell can be be magnified exponentially, with less input voltage applied. This is because the material used "naturally" wants to become something else due to its atomic structure.

Read up on these topics:

The corrosion cell

The electro-chemical potential of metals

The periodic table

Metallurgy

Chemistry

Also through chemistry we can come to understand what is happening within our cell. This includes the break down, and creation of molecules. By knowing what we are messing with, we can prevent making poisonous waste. For instance nickel is naturally a poisonous metal. But placing it in the right position in the cell it will not leach out. But placed oppositely it will releasing a poison into the electrolyte.

On the electrolyte, for instance the previously mentioned glucose, has 16 hydrogen atoms in it, while water has only 2. Im not saying glucose is better, only opening the idea that there may be much better options than water that contain much higher levels of hydrogen than water, yet are just as benign, and cheap to procure, while not  being flammable, and dangerous to use in our cells.


Hitman

Quote from: FosterVS on July 31, 2008, 08:23:37 PM
I have been playing with stainless in different forms (plates, cups, etc.) with varying results. The "twister cups" while having a high output, tend to heat up so much that the metal starts to corrode, which requires disassembling and sanding the surfaces. Plus, the cups I bought predrilled had such crappy holes drilled/punched in them, I am going to garbage them.

Many documents I read about water electrolysis tend to refer often to using platinum electrodes, or nickel in some cases. I have some Monel nickel strips on order to experiment with, however finding platinum plated sheet, etc. has been a dead-end.

Anyone here experimented with these metals at all?

I think hard disks are made of platinum, maybe this can be used.

ydeardorff

Yes some are. But the coating is VERY thin and fragile. Over volting the cell can rip the coating off. (been there done that)

My video posted earlier shows me using a platinum disk platter.

Hydrogenie

Quote from: ydeardorff on April 09, 2012, 09:23:31 PM
For instance some materials oon the periodic table "want to be noble" naturally. They naturally want to gain, or lose electrons making them more reactive. Such as carbon. by exploiting this, the reaction within the cell can be be magnified exponentially, with less input voltage applied. This is because the material used "naturally" wants to become something else due to its atomic structure.

Read up on these topics:

The corrosion cell

The electro-chemical potential of metals

The periodic table

Metallurgy

Chemistry

Also through chemistry we can come to understand what is happening within our cell. This includes the break down, and creation of molecules. By knowing what we are messing with, we can prevent making poisonous waste. For instance nickel is naturally a poisonous metal. But placing it in the right position in the cell it will not leach out. But placed oppositely it will releasing a poison into the electrolyte.

On the electrolyte, for instance the previously mentioned glucose, has 16 hydrogen atoms in it, while water has only 2. Im not saying glucose is better, only opening the idea that there may be much better options than water that contain much higher levels of hydrogen than water, yet are just as benign, and cheap to procure, while not  being flammable, and danger

Your post is interesting.

I've been building and testing hydrogen generators using different approaches and materials.  We seem to have the same idea and I only need to use the right power supply. I only use tap water this time though.

ydeardorff

Quote from: Hydrogenie on April 13, 2012, 04:44:15 PM
Your post is interesting.

I've been building and testing hydrogen generators using different approaches and materials.  We seem to have the same idea and I only need to use the right power supply. I only use tap water this time though.

It would be better to use distilled water. Tap water contains minerals, flouride, chlorine, and many other bad things to place in these cells.
At least by using distilled water, even if you need to add something to it, you know exactly what is in it. And susequently what youll be getting out of it isnt poisonous.

Remember what goes into our cells is as important as what comes out.