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Overunity Machines Forum



Fueless Friction Heater Manufacturer Found

Started by Cap-Z-ro, August 01, 2008, 02:59:08 PM

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Mark69

@Cap,

From what I can remember, those type of pulley systems were or are used in snowmobiles.  Maybe you can find some old snowmobiles at a junkyard or something and get them cheap.  They would easily hold up to your needs.

Mark

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: Mark69 on October 14, 2008, 12:47:35 AM
@Cap,

From what I can remember, those type of pulley systems were or are used in snowmobiles.  Maybe you can find some old snowmobiles at a junkyard or something and get them cheap.  They would easily hold up to your needs.

Mark

you are correct mark, they are usually referred to as CVT's or continuously variable transmissions. they hold up on the business end of 80 to 120+hp motors. '70's sleds with the old "slide rail" type track setup should be cheap and usable. here is a link to workings http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?brochure=1033&location_id=542
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Walter Hofmann

Hi all,
I had posted this info allready a few years back, but its maybe more interesting now. In 1991 there was a company in germany who has build whole house heating/warm water system using hydraulic oil, a hydraulic pump, a 2 to 4 valve manyfold and a submergeble 2 KW motor.
I have seen this in action and it worked perfectly. what they did they had a about 300 gallon fiberglass drum for water reservoir inside was a copper pipe spiral which was connected with a danfoss pump to another copper spiral in, I believe it was about 20 gallon drum filled with hydraulic oil, this was the water sircuit and which had also one spiral which was directly connected to the hydraulic oil out put. Inside this spirals was submerged a direckt driven hydraulic pump with a 2 to 4 valve manyfold which had verry small orifice as outlet which created the verry high temperature and was used to provide the whole house heating source and warm water.
I have to look for the brochure in my ( not so clear sorted ) archive, maybe I find it then I could scann it and poste it.
I thoughd it is another interesting version of conversion mechanical energie to high temperature. 
greetings
walt

noonespecial

Quote from: resonanceman on October 13, 2008, 10:22:03 PM
Electric  resistance heat is the benchmark  that  other  ways  if creating  heat  are measured by . 
That  doesn't mean that there are not more efficient ways  of creating heat .

That is what  big energy wants you to think
Do you  believe everything you  read in a text book?
OU  will be found  in exploiting the  quirks  of processes . 
This  heat  created by  turbulence  looks  like  a  really nice  quirk .


gary

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In almost all cases  your text  books  will  tell you how to work around the quirks  rather than how to exploit them.  

Hi Gary,
Please go back and read reply #8. My only point in this whole discussion is not that there isn't more efficient ways to create heat, its with the idea that this device, which is clearly not OU will somehow cost less to operate than a common baseboard electric heater. Cap-Z-ro acknowledges this fact in his reply. That is why I am confused as to why anyone would spend this kind of money on a less efficient device.

resonanceman

Quote from: noonespecial on October 14, 2008, 09:12:51 AM
Hi Gary,
Please go back and read reply #8. My only point in this whole discussion is not that there isn't more efficient ways to create heat, its with the idea that this device, which is clearly not OU will somehow cost less to operate than a common baseboard electric heater. Cap-Z-ro acknowledges this fact in his reply. That is why I am confused as to why anyone would spend this kind of money on a less efficient device.
reply8

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As far as my research into this heater went, I came across no claims of overunity.

The mere posting of a device on overunity.com does not suggest or imply overunity.

According to the manufacturer, I will be able to heat my house for a fraction of the cost...and without the risk of fire involved with conventionable combustible heating methods.

That, to me is a double plus.





This  sounds clear enough to me .


gary