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Emulsifying Brown's Gas

Started by goldenequity, August 24, 2008, 05:39:29 PM

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goldenequity

I'm still looking for some clever minds out there in our community
knowledgeable in Piezoelectronics and transducers to enter this thread..(hint hint)  ::)

goldenequity

more thoughts.....

Look at it this way, we will simply displace a costly liquid with a "free" gas.

The more liquid you can displace with explosive micro-bubbles, the CHEAPER your fuel will become.

Not to mention, the fact that you have enabled a safe, portable, liquid to store hydrogen.... and not under pressure!

That's pretty awesome all by itself :o.... as the "storage" of hydrogen has always been argued as a logistical "problem."

goldenequity

After doing some research regarding ultrasonics.... it is capable of BOTH gasification and de-gasification and is used in the industrial setting for accomplishing either.

It depends on the frequencies involved but it certainly emulsifies at the molecular level and does it fast. The transducers seem kind of pricey as well.

Using simple fluid dynamics with an effective mixing chamber employing shear and cavitation AND introducing Brown's gas into the agitation (instead of "creating" it using the magnetic field/Nebulizer) may be ALL that's necessary to trap the gas within the oil and should be tried first.
If it's that simple.... then so be it!

Beyond that....
The nebulizer patent claims ability to create the hydroxyl ion... OH.
If that is true... it would first ionize the water which is THEN emulisified with the oil. This "1st" stage of splitting the H20 molecule may be a crucial part of successfully creating such a stable emulsion.

Cheers 2 all!

goldenequity

RE: EM-Fuels/MicroBubbleTech/Nanomizer (above)
This is a recent review in TruckstopUK magazine: http://www.truckstopuk.co.uk/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=234

The article brings outsome important distinctions/advantages  regarding the difference between
a "standard" emulsion of water/diesel vs. a "Brown's Gas" emulsion of HHO/diesel.... as follows:

QuoteWater in fuel emulsions are not new; in fact they?ve been around since the early 1900s and in general are a well known and well proven technology. Emulsification is the process of blending two or more usually immiscible liquids in a way to prevent separation, in this case fuel (diesel, kerosene, bunker oil and bio-oils) and water.

This emulsion is injected into an engine's combustion cylinder where, because of the water content it reduces the peak combustion temperature, which in turn reduces gaseous and particulate pollutants. When the water droplets in the emulsion suddenly vaporise to steam in the high cylinder temperature, they cause so-called ?micro-explosions? inside the surrounding fuel droplets. Whilst these micro-explosions improve the atomisation of the fuel by exposing more of its surface area to the air, which in turn increases combustion, this vaporisation of the free water droplets contained in traditional emulsions can also extract excessive heat from the burn, thus reducing overall engine efficiency.

QuoteFor a variety of reasons, the use of water in fuel emulsions in the road and marine transport industries has been relatively limited to date. This has been partly because up until recently neither emissions, nor indeed fuel costs, were a significant concern for vehicle or ship operators, and partly because traditional water in fuel emulsion products suffer from two significant drawbacks. These are (1) instability in storage ? despite the use of stabilising additives, without stirring a considerable proportion of the water in the emulsion can separate out ? and (2) a reduction in engine efficiency caused by the extraction of heat from the fuel burn as a result of the explosive vaporisation of the water droplets.
Micro Bubble Technology's new nano-technology overcomes both of these two drawbacks, and has arrived at a time when both emissions and fuel costs have moved to the top of the agenda.


That is because they are trapping Brown's gas in their emulsion and NOT just water droplets!!!! (water droplets = only 4%)... read as they describe it (without of course using the term "Brown's Gas" heh-heh ;D

QuoteAt a fundamental level, MBT's Nanomizer? emulsifiers work along similar lines to traditional emulsifiers, however the technology works at a nano-level (less than one millionth of a metre) to produce water and fuel droplets which are up to 10 times smaller than those in traditional emulsions, ranging from 0.1 to 1 micron in diameter. The patented technology also causes a breakdown of the water droplets in the emulsion into separate hydrogen and oxygen radicals, which bind with the fuel droplets at a molecular level.
Despite the fact that the emulsion produced by the Nanomizer? emulsifiers contains a very high level, 40% by volume, of water, less than 4% of this water remains as free, unbound, droplets.

Ok... there ya go... now this next disclosure is an important one too..... they include a "dash" of chemistry as well.... an "emulsifying" agent.... we can talk about this.... there's a host of sufactants available... no big deal!!

QuoteThe emulsification process is aided by the inclusion of a small quantity, 0.3% by volume, of a proprietary additive during the process; this additive has been formulated to also provide additional free oxygen radicals during the burning of the emulsion.
The oxygen-contactable surface area of these sub-micron sized fuel droplets is up to 10,000 times greater than in standard sized fuel droplets, so coupled with the availability of the free oxygen radicals from the molecularly bound droplets and the additional oxygen-providing properties of the proprietary additive, there is a virtually complete burn.

Here's where they extol why the trapped HHO provides the energy that more than compensates for the 4% H20 caloric loss:

QuoteThere is also additional energy released from the explosive recombination of the remaining hydrogen and oxygen. The latter can more than compensate for any loss of efficiency caused by the initial heat extracted from the burn by the vaporisation of the small percentage of free water droplets contained in the emulsion.

Here they sum up their advantages:

QuoteThe consequence of MBT?s patented emulsification process compared to other emulsification technologies is thus four-fold:
(1) Because of the low free water content, the emulsion fuel is far more stable during storage; up to 1 year can be expected under normal storage conditions. No subsequent stirring of the emulsion is necessary to prevent separation.
(2) The far more complete burn results in greater engine efficiency, between 95% and 107% efficient compared to using just the preprocessed oil. The somewhat counter-intuitive ?above 100%? figure is because unprocessed fuel itself does not burn with 100% efficiency and, dependent on application, the increased efficiency of burn of the fuel produced by MBT?s Nanomizer? emulsifiers can better this base-line figure.

(3) There is a greatly reduced level of exhaust emission pollution from emulsions produced by MBT?s Nanomizer? emulsifiers. In general all pollutants, particulate and gaseous (SOX, NOX, CO and CO2) are reduced by up to 60% compared to the preprocessed oil, however trials in Korea and Japan have shown that in some applications this reduction has been up to 90%.
(4) There is a very considerable cost saving due to the high, 40% by volume, water content of the fuel produced by MBT?s Nanomizer? emulsifiers.

Anyone else out there playing with this stuff?? Let's try trapping some bubbles folks!   :)



Chris31

Good stuff,

I cant wait to start playing with this properly. Im too busy with the plasma spark at the moment  ;D