Emulsifying Brown's Gas

[goldenequity]

I would like to kind of sum up where I think we are with development and
what remains left to be done.

I think we've established that the emulsion process does not need Ultrasonics and
that is a relief from a practical standpoint.  MicroBubbleTech is using shear and the
previous patent clearly argues that it is very practical and simple to do so.

We have approached everything from the standpoint of mechanics.... and that needed
to be done..... mixing.

But were not going to completely solve this puzzle until we start delving into the Chemistry.
Such things as viscosity, dispersion, hydrophobic and hydrophyllic  molecular properties of the fluid,
cannot be solved with mechanics alone.

I think that water, and it's droplet size, and it's stability and blending/dispersion within the emulsion (miscibility), even if it's
ONLY 4% and sheared to pieces, will still tend to agglomerate across time if not "put in it's place"
at a molecular level with chemistry.

This brings us to surfactants.
MicroBubbleTech confesses in their publications that they add an "ingredient" to their process besides
water and diesel (kerosene) and that it "aids" in stabilizing the emulsion.
The previous patent also declares the need for a surfactant..... so it's time!

I have been doing hours of research on this (happily  ) and have learned alot.
Stay tuned for coming posts on this..... as it is the last nut to crack!

And thanks for all who post.... it's encouraging when I check on the thread.
I can't wait to see a vid of someone's setup!

randy

[kampen]

Would this be THE ACTIVE "Ingredient"  we are looking for?
See below, specs:

Main performance:
1. Is easy to dissolve in the water, the easy biodegradation, to wash with the foaming performance is good.
2. Effective surface tension inhibitor.
3. Has the remarkable emulsification, the disperser and increases dissolves the function.
4. Has the very high electrolysis allowance.
5. Has the extremely high stability under in the high temperature acidity or the alkazid solution.

Technical specification:
Project target
Outward appearance light yellow to amber brown transparent liquid
PH value 6.0---7.0
Chlorination natrium content % < 1.0
Activeness content % 39

Using:
This is one kind of highly effective surface active agent, it has the remarkable emulsification, the disperser and increases
dissolves the function.
Has the extremely high stability under in the high temperature acidity or the alkazid solution.
In view of the fact that it has the various function emulsifier (water soluble) 4. 5, 9 and 20 moles.
Ecofriendly and approved in all applications.
Enable insoluble substances and water to mix together and stay mixed as a homogenous emulsion

Let me know.

[ramset]

@GE sweet!! I guess its play time for me [Some Amazing finds you have there]
Hopefully show time soon
@Kampen  sounds good what is it ?
          Chet PS shearing , cavitating combustibles  [static,heat build up etc.] might be tricky
@ Pese what have you got on this[any info would be good] ?

[goldenequity]

Play time is right.... this is going to be the best part.....
the more participation in researching and studying and then
experimenting, observing and reporting back to each other the better!

One thing...... plan to get/find some baby food jars for this....
there's no need to experiment with the effects of different surfactants on
gallons of fossil fuels..... this is lab time.... and the scale should be in milliliters not liters.

At the outset, I would say that the BEST surfactant or combination of surfactants
should do their job of water-in-oil with very little amounts and just a little stirring.....
and handle anything from a 20-40% water/fuel mix....that's when you know you've got a good recipe! 

Then you leave it overnight and check for any beginnings of separation in the following days.
That's what we're shooting for....... and there won't be JUST ONE that works... but some should
work better for the money than others.....

This should be part "McGuiver" (try stuff and see if it works) and part (a lot research and reading like
Kampen has begun to do (very cool!)

OK ...now Kampen..... whaddayagot and what does your fact finding tell us?
Is it a nonionic, cationic or anionic surfactant?  (this is fun!)

PS... as we try different surfactants we will be dealing with chemical manufacturing companies...
guess what? They will ship samples. (not so much "supply" companies but mfr.'s will)

So the more research you do.... the more you can "speak" their language....
do your homework, focus in on something and know WHAT you want and WHY before you talk to them....
you might get lucky and get them to help and send off samples to try. 

[ramset]

GE   funny thing Cutting oil comes to mind [lathes cnc etc] water oil mix  Stays in solution forever
Yes Mfg. will ship samples no problem yes lingo important but not always [they want to SELL]
WOW this is exciting stuff
small jars /samples good idea
figure a base line temp ? as a reference point for combusting ,and how to measure without to much expense ?[I forgot a long time ago this info will have to scratch the head]
Oh yeah did I say this is great stuff !! 
      Chet